1eyedjack Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 [hv=sn=1eyedjack&s=SK52HKJ72DQJ75CA3&wn=Robot&w=STHQ643D93CKQJ742&nn=Robot&n=SQ984HT9DAK64CT85&en=Robot&e=SAJ763HA85DT82C96&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=PP1N2C!(Cappelletti%20-%20single%20suited%20--%2014-%20HCP%3B%2010+%20total%20points)D(Stayman%20--%2011-%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points)R(Balanced%20hand%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%202-5%20%21S%3B%208-11%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points)2H3C(14-%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21C%3B%2010+%20total%20points)3S(3-%20%21H%3B%204+%20%21S%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)PPP&p=D2D5D9DAHTHAH2H4C9C3CJC5D3DKDTD7H9H8H7HQH3D4H5HJHKH6D6S3D8DQSTSQS4S7SKC2DJC7C8S6C6CAC4CTS2CQS8SASJS5CKS9]400|300[/hv]MP, Instant, 34 It is unfortunate that the explanations of South's bids are not displayed, but there is nothing odd there. I believe that the 2H bid shows 4-5 Hearts, no further limitation on strength, and that any other call than 2H would deny 4 of them. By all means correct me. Focus on North's 3S. Is it forcing? It is not obvious from the explanation whether GIB intended it as forcing. It is not hard to construct hands within the stated range in which North would WANT to force. But in that case why place an upper limit on the range? As to whether 3S is a SENSIBLE bid on this hand, that is another issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 ... why place an upper limit on the range? The upper limit is there because North is a passed hand. What is causing all of your bids to be unexplained in all of these hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted July 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 OK that makes sense. It makes sense fo the 3S to be forcing. Not convinced that north has enough. Having bid 2c earlier presumably pass would show invite with 4 spades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Having bid 2c earlier presumably pass would show invite with 4 spadesNot true. GIB doesn't promise a major with Stayman, and the 3♣ bid prevents him from distinguishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 OK that makes sense. It makes sense fo the 3S to be forcing. Not convinced that north has enough. Having bid 2c earlier presumably pass would show invite with 4 spadesI don't think it's forcing. With clubs stopped and 4♠ can bid 3N. Presumably wouldn't Stayman and bid 3N without 4M but I'm not 100% sure with interference. So 3♠ should have some doubt about final contract, sure has values for 3N (well at least it's bid showed values it doesn't quite have it but close). So maybe end up in 4♦ if 3♠/3N/4♠ no good. At least that's how I would play it in interference, who knows what Gib's plan is, if it has a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 GIB does not play Garbage Stayman. That is not my choice, but it should help GIB here. If 2C showed at least invitational values, as I believe it does, N has an easy pass over the 3C interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 GIB does not play Garbage Stayman. That is not my choice, but it should help GIB here. If 2C showed at least invitational values, as I believe it does, N has an easy pass over the 3C interference.It would be nice if this were included in the explanation of North's double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 It would be nice if this were included in the explanation of North's double. True. I don't remember how ordinary Stayman by a passed hand is defined, I wonder if it is any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 True. I don't remember how ordinary Stayman by a passed hand is defined, I wonder if it is any different.That is defined exactly the same way as this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 GIB does not play Garbage Stayman. That is not my choice, but it should help GIB here. If 2C showed at least invitational values, as I believe it does, N has an easy pass over the 3C interference.Really you'd risk moving from a good escape to a bad major hand. Its crappelliti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Really you'd risk moving from a good escape to a bad major hand. Its crappelliti. I don't understand this comment. I said that N should pass 3C, not "escape" anywhere. What are you suggesting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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