gwnn Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) TxxKxxQJTAQJx Our LHO deals and it goes: 1S-p-4S-? Opps' 4S shows 5+ spades and at most 8 points. We are NV vs V (sorry you're a robot so you are not allowed to know the scoring). I know Bradley usually posts these hands before posting the full hand but I didn't think there would be a controversy about this. Edited July 17, 2015 by gwnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Worth posting the vul and scoring, but I pass at any combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 It's about how much you trust opps. But if you can, p is obv void in spades. It didn't surprise me that GIB's sims favoured dbl. But probably only at favourable. It could get too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I suppose I could construct a more obvious pass. But not by much. Sure, maybe partner is void in spades. If he is, he still did not act over 1♠. Hmmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 So I'm the robot? Is this a Best Hand tourney? Doesn't seem likely, since that would mean partner has at least 13 HCP, short spades, and couldn't find a takeout double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 So I'm the robot? Is this a Best Hand tourney? Doesn't seem likely, since that would mean partner has at least 13 HCP, short spades, and couldn't find a takeout doubleYou just don't know the scoring, that was my point. Spoiler: Actually you are a robot playing with a robot and you trust your human opponent to have preempted honestly. I had a discussion on whether or not double here is reasonable if you believe your opponent's 4♠ bid. Needless to say your human opponent actually had a non-typical 4♠ bid but let's say you don't think these humans are capable of doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Pass. Even if I could see a spade void in partner's hand would I want to bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Another vote to pass. PD likely has a ♠ void and didn't bid and maybe close to broke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Echo Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Agree with pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo25 Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Pass is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 A typical wtf pass. Who said LHO has a 5332 12-count? If he had, p would have found some other bid than pass over 1S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynmoir Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 Used to be that a double of 4 ♠ was for penalties. Not so clear any more. If partner has a max (10 points, prime cards) repeated spade leads could set this contract a lot. But, you're not on lead, partner doesn't have to have anything useful, and strength sits behind you. Pass unless you really need a swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baderu Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 i found a card typed as "TD" in my bidding box, may i use it this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Most obvious pass ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 What does partner have ? Probably a spade void and an 8 count that couldn't WJO (don't know what GIB does for 2 suited overcalls). Are opps making 4♠ ? possibly but probably not. Are we making game ? it's possible but not that likely, yes partner can have void, AQxx, Kxxx, 109xxx or similar, but we might not play the right game opposite that. I just pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 If partner has a spade void... he knows that himself, we don't have to bid it for him. If we pass and partner does somehow find another bid, will he even be pleasantly surprised by what we have? Honestly, the only thing we have is maybe 3 HCP more than partner can expect, otherwise our hand is disgusting in every way. Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Pass. If you double, partner, with a void, may find some reason to "save" and bid. Unfortunately, with your flat hand, you're hand isn't likely to provide much trick taking assistance (i.e. short hand ruffs) beyond your point count. That can be a formula for a phone number set. Or, worse, partner might just have to pass and they make. If you pass and partner finds a call, whatever happens is on him/her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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