y66 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/06/27/us/27SCOTUSJP/27SCOTUSJP-articleLarge.jpg What a fantastic week at the Supreme Court for love and health care! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/ax2l3P9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Zr49NEb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WdwJGqy.jpg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Bad week for self-righteous bigots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 How fitting to get this news on London Pride Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 How fitting to get this news on London Pride Day. As is San Francisco's. Would have been fun to be in the Castro for this milestone. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/06/26/marriageequality-ruling-to-deliver-most-epic-sf-gay-pride-parade-ever/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Nancy Pelosi about doing whatever it takes to pass health care reform when things looked bleakest — after Ted Kennedy had died, and Republicans won his seat — Democrats started to backtrack, but Pelosi stood firm. Via Gail Collins. We’ll go through the gate. If the gate’s closed, we’ll go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we’ll pole vault in. If that doesn’t work, we’ll parachute in. But we’re going to get health care reform passed for the American people.The Bob Hamman of the Democratic Party. Probably eats raw steak too. Actually, her father and her brother were both mayors of Baltimore. No doubt, you learn a thing or two about gumption in that family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 SCOTUS definitely redeemed themselves this week after the Citizens United decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Although I got to wondering: If Citizens United declared that corporations are people, and this week they ruled that any people can get married, can corporations get married? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Although I got to wondering: If Citizens United declared that corporations are people, and this week they ruled that any people can get married, can corporations get married? :) Yes, but don't expect monogamy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 SCOTUS definitely redeemed themselves this week after the Citizens United decision.Just barely though. And did you read the dissents? Pretty harsh stuff for legal opinions. Which oh yes reminds me of Bad week for self-righteous bigots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Just barely though. And did you read the dissents? Pretty harsh stuff for legal opinions. Which oh yes reminds me of Bad week for self-righteous bigots. As much as I disagree with the opinions of Justice Scalia, Alito and Thomas, it is inappropriate to refer to them as self-righteous bigots. They have an agenda, and they will follow that agenda come what may. Attributing their opinions to baser motives is unfair and inappropriate. (By the way, one should read Chief Justice Robert's opinion as he directly challenged a number of the points raised by Justice Scalia. Strong stuff from the CJ) As for others on the right (Santorum, Limbaugh, et al.), I don't have any problems with your characterization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Hmmm. I wonder when the next case will come. Will this become like abortion, a permanent issue of contention, with near-constant legislation attacking the court's ruling? Or will it become like Loving v. Virginia ... gradually accepted until mainstream. I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Hmmm. I wonder when the next case will come. Will this become like abortion, a permanent issue of contention, with near-constant legislation attacking the court's ruling? Or will it become like Loving v. Virginia ... gradually accepted until mainstream. I wonder. The second. You can already see acceptance rapidly moving on this issue, and as more people either know someone who is gay or realize the world didn't end with gay people getting married that will continue to grow. And on L v. V, it was only 1995 when 50+% of Americans approved of interracial marriages. We already have 50+% of Americans approving of gay marriage. There likely will be vocal minorities for a while, but before too long (possibly years, but like <8 years) it will be a minority opinion even when restricted to just Republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 The second. You can already see acceptance rapidly moving on this issue, and as more people either know someone who is gay or realize the world didn't end with gay people getting married that will continue to grow. And on L v. V, it was only 1995 when 50+% of Americans approved of interracial marriages. We already have 50+% of Americans approving of gay marriage. There likely will be vocal minorities for a while, but before too long (possibly years, but like <8 years) it will be a minority opinion even when restricted to just Republicans.You may be right. I hope so. Then again, religious objectors tend to be resistant to change/acceptance, and these are the large majority of the current "against" crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 I predict that pot legalization will be the next great battleground, although its unclear if the court wants to make this a federal issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 As much as I disagree with the opinions of Justice Scalia, Alito and Thomas, it is inappropriate to refer to them as self-righteous bigots. They have an agenda, and they will follow that agenda come what may. Attributing their opinions to baser motives is unfair and inappropriate. (By the way, one should read Chief Justice Robert's opinion as he directly challenged a number of the points raised by Justice Scalia. Strong stuff from the CJ) As for others on the right (Santorum, Limbaugh, et al.), I don't have any problems with your characterization. My comment was not referencing the justices - only the self-righteous bigots that were disappointed by the justices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Although I got to wondering: If Citizens United declared that corporations are people, and this week they ruled that any people can get married, can corporations get married? :)Imagine the nice opportunities for tax schemes if a person can get married to a corporation. ;) Rik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Imagine the nice opportunities for tax schemes if a person can get married to a corporation.Or the rule that you can't be forced to testify against your spouse. Although I heard in some discussion of this case that the justices did address the fact that they aren't necessarily opening up the door to bigamy. So the corporation would have to pick just one executive to marry. And I guess there's also the general rule that sham marriages (e.g. "green card" marriages) are not considered valid. So you'd have to convince the judge that you and the corporation are truly in love. But I suppose of a corporation can have a political opinion, it can also have emotions. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Historically, being in love has rarely been a consideration in marriage. I can't imagine it's a legal requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 What do you get when 2 corporations mess around? Congress man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 What do you do if:1) in favor of gay marriage2) the law is vague or nonexistentgranted we do not want to be called a bigot per posters----------========================================== based on these posts many posters seem to say vote on what we say or you are a bigot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 What do you do if:1) in favor of gay marriage2) the law is vague or nonexistentgranted we do not want to be called a bigot per posters----------========================================== based on these posts many posters seem to say vote on what we say or you are a bigot Just put a rainbow on your FB profile photo and then everyone will know you aren't a bigot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Just put a rainbow on your FB profile photo and then everyone will know you aren't a bigot. got it put a rainbow otherwise you are a bigot you make my main point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 got it put a rainbow otherwise you are a bigot you make my main point. That was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 nah, most of my friends don't have rainbows on their facebook profile. Maybe a few of them are bigots. Probably not. Wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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