pbleighton Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 "Correct me if I'm wrong - this is BEGINNER nad Intermediate string??? PLEASE all you EXPERTS please don't bring EXPERT comments here" Disagree - please comment all you want - any beginner/intermediate who reads the Forum regularly quickly learns that all of you guys disagree like crazy, and we bring a salt shaker along whenever we log in ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 any beginner/intermediate who reads the Forum regularly quickly learns that all of you guys disagree like crazy, and we bring a salt shaker along whenever we log in I totally disagree with that comment Peter, lol ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Some more thoughts and clarifications: My comments about relays were primarily about the very elaborate, slam-oriented relays over positive responses to the 1CL openeing. The chance that you're in in the slam zone and the enemy doesn't interfere is rather small. The memory work might be better applied to your method of handling interference. Game-oriented relays as Hrothgar suggests could be very rewarding over the limited openings or in 1CL-1DI auctions when your partnership is ready for the complexity involved. Balanced hands are more defensive than offensive. An 11-12 HCP balanced hand works OK if your system allows you to open a weak NT with this count, but personally, I'd rather pass Ax Qxx Kxxx Kxxx (first or second seat) than open 1DI. My experience is that sometimes you miss something, sometimes you stay out of trouble, and sometimes you get a penalty. On the other hand, AQxxx Kxx Qxx xx is an automatic 1SP opening in the form of Precision I advocate. The major opening has premptive value and there is more chance of game. I also would rather pass an unbalanced 12-value hand that would cause severe rebid problems or would require the creation of problems elsewhere in the system to avoid them. This explains my reasoning about the 2CL opening--by narrowing the range, it is easier to cope with the 4M-5CL hands that are the main dirfficulty with 2CL. I really didn't get a lot of crappy results opening 1CL--partner can count on me for an upper end strong NT at worst. My understanding is that Romex's Dynamic NT does fairly well against interference, and we're talking about 1 HCP stonger than the Precison 1CL I advocate. Admittedly 1CL gives them more room to intervene, but the cheap interventions are the easier ones to handle. An advantage of all forms of Precision is how responder can do so many nasty things to the enemy. An example: NV vs. V I held xx xxx Axxx Axxx and partner opened 1SP. RHO passed and I passed (in tempo). If partner has shape LHO is pretty certain to have some shape too and balance. If partner has a flat 15-16 with 5 spades, we aren't missing a game and 1SP plays fine if it gets left in. RHO balanced with 2CL, partner doubled for takeout and I left it in. The ran to 2DI and I doubled, they ran to 2HE and partner doubled on KTx--they went for 800 vs a partscore (we were cold for 2NT or 3SP), they could have got out for 500 if they'd been able to place the Aces. We had to survive a director call and a commitee, but we got to keep our top. We prealerted that we pass many 6's and 7's and a few 8's in response to 1 of a natural suit--the opponents didn't want to believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 We had to survive a director call and a commitee, but we got to keep our top. We prealerted that we pass many 6's and 7's and a few 8's in response to 1 of a natural suit--the opponents didn't want to believe it. I can't believe that anyone would call the director on your pass. I would report the opponents for unethical behaviour, Are they dictating how you should bid, purleeze!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 The director call astonished me at the time. They had full disclosure of our methods and were trying to lawyer themselves out of a bottom. This was back before appeals committes in the ACBL started imposing penaties for frivolous appeals. (Director correctly ruled in our favor.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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