Bbradley62 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 We have frequently seen that GIB, like many humans, will stretch by one point of one card in length to make a bid when under pressure. But...[hv=nn=GIB%20N&n=SK965HAQT3DJ3CT54&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B)P1H(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20%21H%3B%206+%20total%20points)D(Two%20suit%20takeout%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%205-%20%21D%3B%205-%20%21H%3B%204+%20%21S%3B%2012+%20total%20points)P1S(4+%20%21S%3B%2010-%20total%20points)PP2D(3-%20%21H%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%20biddable%20%21D%3B%2014-22%20total)P2H(4-%20%21D%3B%206+%20%21H%3B%206-8%20total%20points)PPP]300|240[/hv]Shouldn't my pass over East's takeout double deny 3 hearts?My balancing 2♦ shows only "biddable" diamonds?Over the takeout double, 1N by me would have shown a hand too strong to open 1N. I repeat my suggestion (frequently supported by others) that this should be a competitive bid showing a hand too weak to open 1N and preferring to play 1N rather than defend it.In the balancing seat after West's 1♠, 1N previewed as 16+ HCP; 18- total points. Ick.What would 1N by North have shown over West's 1♠ (or double, for that matter)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 This bid comes from a section of the rule file labeled "Improvising". This contains some last-resort rules are intended to make sure GIB keeps the auction alive when it's too strong to pass (this used to be a real problem -- if the robot's hand fell through a crack in the rules, it would just pass). Comments on individual rules are "being overstrength is better than passing for lack of a call", "if stuck for a bid, might rebid any 5-card suit", and finally "or 4-card if really stuck but partner will assume a good 5". That last one is where this crazy bid came from. I think the bug here is that your 2♦ bid should show rebiddable diamonds, not just biddable diamonds. 1NT by North would have shown 4+ ♥; 9+ HCP; 12- total points; stop in ♣; stop in ♠. So basically the hand it has, but with one of the heart honors in the club suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 This bid comes from a section of the rule file labeled "Improvising". This contains some last-resort rules are intended to make sure GIB keeps the auction alive when it's too strong to pass (this used to be a real problem -- if the robot's hand fell through a crack in the rules, it would just pass). Comments on individual rules are "being overstrength is better than passing for lack of a call", "if stuck for a bid, might rebid any 5-card suit", and finally "or 4-card if really stuck but partner will assume a good 5". That last one is where this crazy bid came from. I think the bug here is that your 2♦ bid should show rebiddable diamonds, not just biddable diamonds. 1NT by North would have shown 4+ ♥; 9+ HCP; 12- total points; stop in ♣; stop in ♠. So basically the hand it has, but with one of the heart honors in the club suit.stop in ♣ is an excessive requirement- remove that one. Why not just double but I suppose that's complicated to programme in- showing likely 4 of that major with 10+HCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I think the bug here is that your 2♦ bid should show rebiddable diamonds, not just biddable diamonds.And if that were fixed, what would North do over 2♦, which supposedly shows 14-22 total points despite the fact that I didn't bid 2♦ directly over the double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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