UI situation during Batman vs Superman TM

[MrAce]

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Here is a hand from Batman-Superman match where i feel guilty of using UI.

 

Against 3 NT I led ♥J which was held by K by my pd Csaba. Then pd played ♥8, declarer 9 and I won with T. I was trying to figure what to do. 8 looked like from originally K8x. Which indicates that declarer had Q9xx. This also means declarer has 5♠+4♥ and only 4 cards minors. So I thought even if ♥ A blows a trick, declarer still needs diamonds and as long as he does not have Q or has stiff Q I would be fine. Also I had an UI that for some reason I did not see it as such during the game. It took forever for Csaba to play ♥ after he took ♥K. Why would he think so long if he had only K8x. Having left with 8x it is obvious even for a beginner to play the 8 right away. So i knew he had hard time to choose whether to play the correct card of smallest from 8xx or try to make a forcing play with 8. Csaba should have played smallest because if declarer has 4 hearts, which makes me lead J from AJTx or AJT9, 8 does not have the force ability in any case.

 

So I cashed the A dropping the Q. Thank god it did not matter what I played, declarer was going down 2 regardless. But today when I watched the you tube version of the match, I realized that the information I gathered, which did not occur to me at the table as one, actually was an UI. I don't know why I did not see it as such at the table, perhaps because playing almost no live bridge for a long time and haven't been called TD on me.

 

I truly apologize to opponents even if it did not matter. It really did not occur to me at the moment that this was not an information I could use.

[gwnn]

To be fair my tempo might be off when I'm recording but this time it took about a minute. Of course one minute of commentary is different than one minute of thinking but yea it is not my normal tempo no matter what.

 

The hand is at:

 

Bottom line is, I should know that the 8 does not help against Q9xx.

[ArtK78]

UI may have been transmitted by the tempo of the play of the ♥8. but it was obviously not received. So YOU did not have UI. Maybe someone else would have UI.

 

:)

[MrAce]

UI may have been transmitted by the tempo of the play of the ♥8. but it was obviously not received. So YOU did not have UI. Maybe someone else would have UI.

 

:)

 

Ok I did not understand this Art.

 

I think I received it. In my decision to play A, his tempo was not the sole factor but still a supporting factor. It just did not occur to me at the moment that this is the type of info I am not supposed to use.

What am I missing?

[ArtK78]

From your write up, it appeared to me that partner's tempo did not enter into your decision to play the ♥A. Now you are saying it was a factor. So perhaps I am mistaken.

 

In any event, you had bridge reasons for playing the ♥A so I don't think there is a problem.

[Zelandakh]

In any event, you had bridge reasons for playing the ♥A so I don't think there is a problem.

There is often a problem when "bridge reasons" line up with UI, Art. The question is whether there was a LA here and, if there was, if there was damage. I think the answer is no but a write-up in the Laws forum would be one way of confirming that.

[barmar]

Wouldn't East have bid 3♥ over 3♦ if he were 5-4 in the majors? West hasn't denied 4 hearts because he might not have strength enough for a reverse, nor has he denied 3 spades. It seems to me that you have sufficient AI to make cashing the ♥A the only LA.

[MrAce]

Wouldn't East have bid 3♥ over 3♦ if he were 5-4 in the majors? West hasn't denied 4 hearts because he might not have strength enough for a reverse, nor has he denied 3 spades. It seems to me that you have sufficient AI to make cashing the ♥A the only LA.

 

It depends on their style I guess. Some people play 3♦ denies 4 card ♥. I am definitely one of them. If a hand is good enough for 3♦ then good enough for reverse for me. I would hate to worry about pd's side 4 card major after he already jumped to 3 in his minor. I'd rather use further bids for slam or best game purposes than trying wonder about side 4M.