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what do u bid?  

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  1. 1. what do u bid?

    • pass
      0
    • dbl
      17
    • 3nt
      0
    • 4 diamonds
      1
    • 4 hearts
      16
    • 4 spades
      1
    • 4nt
      1
    • 5 hearts
      0
    • 5 spades
      0
    • other
      0


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Double. I hope we play negative doubles this high. In real life I play them through 4 even!

 

My plan is to bid 4 over partner's 4 rebid. That should show a red 2-suiter since I didn't bid 4 (forcing) on my first turn. A direct 4 would be unilateral. We may have a diamond slam on, and even 5 could be a better contract than 4.

 

Roland

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Thanks to everybody who answered to my poll!

 

At my table the bidding went:

 

1 - 3 - DBL - pass

6 (!!!) - p

 

What do you bid now? I bid pass, and my left-side opponent bid 6

 

6 -

pass (obviously forcing) - p - DBL - 6

pass (again forcing) - p

 

Well... now I decided in a really brave way to bid 7!!!!

 

Only heart lead sets the contract off... This was the dummy:

 

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x

K10xxx

AKQ10xxx

 

Bye all,

Alberto!

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I like how all of the Xers manage to tell us what they will bid over the specific auction pass on left, 4C by pard, pass on right. And even then they are not in agreement. In real life things don't always work out so well, and sometimes LHO bids 4S. Sometimes pard will bid 5C (we are void). Sometimes both. Then things get really murky. I think X is awful, and would never even consider it. my .02 :lol:
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And even then they are not in agreement. In real life things don't always work out so well, and sometimes LHO bids 4S. Sometimes pard will bid 5C (we are void). Sometimes both. Then things get really murky. I think X is awful, and would never even consider it. my .02 :rolleyes:

I like how all of the Xers manage to tell us what they will bid over the specific auction pass on left, 4C by pard, pass on right.

easy, 4... as roland said, that should show a red 2 suiter... if LHO bids 4S and pard 5C, i bid 5D

 

justin, doesn't a negative double show that hand very well?

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And even then they are not in agreement. In real life things don't always work out so well, and sometimes LHO bids 4S. Sometimes pard will bid 5C (we are void). Sometimes both. Then things get really murky. I think X is awful, and would never even consider it. my .02 :rolleyes:
I like how all of the Xers manage to tell us what they will bid over the specific auction pass on left, 4C by pard, pass on right.

easy, 4... as roland said, that should show a red 2 suiter... if LHO bids 4S and pard 5C, i bid 5D

 

justin, doesn't a negative double show that hand very well?

What is...

(2S)-4D

 

the way you play? Is this leaping michaels?

 

How about

(3S)-4D

 

You bidding your great diamond suit, without hearts, but maybe passing up on a potential 3NT contract?

 

Mishovnbg's Meta overcall combine the leaping michaels concept with (if your partner opens) a thrump double...so here, on this auction...

 

1- (3)-?

 

DBL is thrump looking for a spade stopper

4 is round force and shows leaping micheals type hand, here diamond/heart two suiter

 

This system solves this difficult situation hand, but introduces some problems with typical 1-4-5-3 hands where normal takeout double works better. Misho and I play meta overcalls only after three level preempts (opening or jump overcalls).

 

Ben

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I bid 4 showing both red suits. This is a like leaping Michaels as Ben pointed out.

 

The real problems after a pre-empt is bidding hand that have two features to show. Therefore you need some methods to show two features immediately.

 

This method does not give up much with a single suited hand in diamonds you still have three options:

 

1. THRUMP double

 

2. 3NT

 

3. 5 or even 6

 

The only problem with the hand in question is that 4 does not show the sixth heart. Playing this method if I did bid 4 and then 5 I would be showing extra heart length.

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I bid 4 showing both red suits. This is a like leaping Michaels as Ben pointed out.

A wiseman.. .welcome to the dark side... :-)

 

I use 4 here as showing either and other major (if their bidding is preemptive), or as fit nonjump (if their bidding is not weak). I can never simply show diamonds an nothing else. So far, haven't missed it. Double is thrump if theirs is weak or not weak with diamond one suiter, or like you said, I can close eyes and bid 5D to play. After a forcing diamond, what else you gonna do but end up there anyway if all you have is diamonds and you bid a forcing 4D?

 

Ben

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easy, 4... as roland said, that should show a red 2 suiter... if LHO bids 4S and pard 5C, i bid 5D

 

justin, doesn't a negative double show that hand very well?

negative Xs do not show 6-5 hands, with a 6 card major no. As for your 5D bid in that auction... with:

 

xxx

Kxxx

AKQJxx

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wouldn't you make a neg X? then wouldnt you bid 5D? Those bids are automatic. How have you distinguished this hand from the one in question?

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