barmar Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 From their website: "an association governed by Swiss law". Switzerland may be less corrupt than most, I don't know. So someone needs to find a Swiss law that has been broken. And it has to be a law for which the punishment is dissolution of the corporation, not merely a fine. I suspect it's unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 So someone needs to find a Swiss law that has been broken. And it has to be a law for which the punishment is dissolution of the corporation, not merely a fine. I suspect it's unlikely. agree 100% dissolution would need to be driven by the customers or lack of customers. they provide the billions. think of bbo if customers leave in mass. Even a great bridge site may fail, if customers leave in mass for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 It is not necessary that the corporation be dissolved by government action. If enough of the bad apples are removed from FIFA so that those who remain choose to dissolve the corporation, it can be done that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Cricinfo (cricket's premier site) having some fun at Blatter's expense http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/884925.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'd say there's a pretty good correlation between the red areas and federations that vote for Blatter ... Sure. But I was really surprised that France voted for Blatter. M. Platini seems not to have much influence in his "home" federation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 This is from a year ago but it's great Chances are, if you’re a woman and you’ve had much contact with the leadership of FIFA, you have a story to tell about sexism and soccer’s world governing body. U.S. forward Abby Wambach tells one from the time she and her now-wife, Sarah Huffman, were backstage in a VIP room in January 2013 before the World Player of the Year awards gala in Zurich, Switzerland. “[FIFA president] Sepp Blatter came into our little area, and he walked straight up to Sarah and thought she was [brazilian star] Marta,” says Wambach. “Marta!” Blatter said, hugging a bewildered Huffman, who doesn't look much like Marta. “You are the best! The very best!” “He had no idea who Marta was, and she’s won the award five times,” says Wambach. “For me, that’s just a slap in the face because it shows he doesn’t really care about the women’s game.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 I see now that Blatter may not really be resigning. Just another ploy, apparently. While I did not predict this, I cannot say I am surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 The problem is that it doesn't take much money in cosmic terms to buy the football association of some obscure small country, at than point I have as much voting power in FIFA as Germany, but I'm a lot cheaper to buy, so I get lots of bribes and get fabulously wealthy. This is not going to change. Perhaps 1/4 of teams are in contention to even make it to the world cup, the rest are small countries who have 75% of the vote. Why would they EVER agree on letting the big nations get more votes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 This is not going to change. Perhaps 1/4 of teams are in contention to even make it to the world cup, the rest are small countries who have 75% of the vote. Why would they EVER agree on letting the big nations get more votes? Well TBF the IOC did kinda manage it. It might take the big nations threatening to break away, the world cup would be worthless if only competed by African/Asian nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Another option is to let the countries sell their votes, I mean it is their vote to sell. If you want it that badly, if it has some real value, pay me. If it the vote is not worth paying me for it, fair enough do not. As Cyb points out some countries may just choose to leave or destroy FIFA and let it be replaced with something or ten somethings. I think the concerns here are that paying for votes seems unfair/unjust and destroying FIFA creates uncertainty. For example it may mean the next world cup is cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 For example it may mean the next world cup is cancelled. That ain't gonna happen Mike. You ain't gonna witness THIS in any other sport and world won't allow it to be cancelled. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif It is not really about how many goals are scored in a match for football fans. There is much more to see for an eye that knows to look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 That ain't gonna happen Mike. You ain't gonna witness THIS in any other sport and world won't allow it to be cancelled. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif It is not really about how many goals are scored in a match for football fans. There is much more to see for an eye that knows to look. ACE you did not quote the rest of my post so out of context. :) If FIFA was destroyed, yes the concern is that the next world cup might be cancelled. Now if you think FIFA wont be destroyed out of this concern, you agree with me. As you state the worldwide fans will not allow this. :) btw the world series was cancelled in baseball.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_World_Series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 2018 Russia is on for sure. 2022 Qatar .. could be relocated or boycotted over human rights violations. Time will tell. Personally, I think that any conscionable nation or team should refuse to go. As a fan of USA, I would consider this a greater success than attending and winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 2018 Russia is on for sure. 2022 Qatar .. could be relocated or boycotted over human rights violations. Time will tell. Personally, I think that any conscionable nation or team should refuse to go. As a fan of USA, I would consider this a greater success than attending and winning. hmm you give Russia a pass on human rights violations compared to Qatar ok on the record.--------------- I understand fans/customers/ those of you who pay your hard earned euros, want the games to go on no matter whatr. But that does not make you innocent.--------------- destroying Fifa may lead to a cancellation of the next world cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 hmm you give Russia a pass on human rights violations compared to QatarIt is not about human rights violations as far as Russia is concerned. The time to 2018 is tighter and the main alternative (England) has backed away from stepping up. For 2022 there would be enough time for another country, such as Australia, to do the work required. The issues in Qatar also go well beyond human rights. It will cause major disruption to the European leagues to hold the World Cup in the winter, especially to the Premier League where this is the busiest time of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 The World Cup should never have been awarded to Qatar. Now is the time to correct that mistake. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 The World Cup should never have been awarded to Qatar. Now is the time to correct that mistake. In hindsight also not to Russia, but there is time to also correct that mistake. If the FIFA is damaged in such a way that the next world cup is cancelled (which FIFA deserves), I expect that UEFA & CONMEBOL will be glad to invite the other zones in a 32-team "extended European / South American" championship which happens to take place in 2018 somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 In hindsight also not to Russia, but there is time to also correct that mistake. If the FIFA is damaged in such a way that the next world cup is cancelled (which FIFA deserves), I expect that UEFA & CONMEBOL will be glad to invite the other zones in a 32-team "extended European / South American" championship which happens to take place in 2018 somewhere. It would be desirable but will not happen. The main reason: FIFA and the WC have the same sponsors as the big european national federations, a long list of the mega corporations. German federation will for sure not boycott FIFA events if multis like Adidas, Daimler etc dont want it. The money rules the soccer and it will stay so after Blatter is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 It is not about human rights violations as far as Russia is concerned. The time to 2018 is tighter and the main alternative (England) has backed away from stepping up. For 2022 there would be enough time for another country, such as Australia, to do the work required. The issues in Qatar also go well beyond human rights. It will cause major disruption to the European leagues to hold the World Cup in the winter, especially to the Premier League where this is the busiest time of the year.It's also illegal (or should be) to win the right to host with a sci-fi proposal saying you can totally host it in July and later saying "oooooh, maybe November would be better." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 In hindsight also not to Russia, but there is time to also correct that mistake. If the FIFA is damaged in such a way that the next world cup is cancelled (which FIFA deserves), I expect that UEFA & CONMEBOL will be glad to invite the other zones in a 32-team "extended European / South American" championship which happens to take place in 2018 somewhere. It wasn't quite as obvious when the vote took place as it is now that Russia would be a bad choice (although many of us felt it was obvious enough). I don't think there's enough time to pull it from Russia unless it's obvious to everybody that lots of corruption was involved (or they do something catastrophic in the foreign policy department) and there's revulsion from everybody including the sponsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 It wasn't quite as obvious when the vote took place as it is now that Russia would be a bad choice (although many of us felt it was obvious enough). I don't think there's enough time to pull it from Russia unless it's obvious to everybody that lots of corruption was involved (or they do something catastrophic in the foreign policy department) and there's revulsion from everybody including the sponsors. Well for one time we will have a "World Cup" without investing billions into new stadiums, which is fine since we have suitable stadiums in Europe. One should give it to the 2nd place bid which is Spain + Portugal. The only problem is that people think 2018 is still "far away" so they are not putting enough pressure on sponsors yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 bump 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 hmm did I not suggest destroy Fifa.....and replace with something...ten somethings.....sigh the fans will just not give up next world cup....so blame them...they get what they seek the fans have the money..the fans have the power!! the fans vote do not destroy next world cup no matter how corrupt! they just do not care that much---- the problem is people do not do not accept fifa be destroyed...they want it to live no matter what crap If your view point is that Fifa must live no matter what....that the world cup must live no matter what ....then that ends discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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