billw55 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 ONe report said over 1000 killed in building of CUP games in Qutar ..if true it seems not many really care that much.The slave labor and associated mass murder (I will not call them simply deaths) in Qatar are by far the greatest stain on FIFA. I have seen projections, based on current total victims and state of completion of the stadia, of 4-5000 total murders by end of project. The scope of the slaughter is deeply horrible; the Qatari lords in charge have claimed their place among the truly evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 The slave labor and associated mass murder (I will not call them simply deaths) in Qatar are by far the greatest stain on FIFA. I have seen projections, based on current total victims and state of completion of the stadia, of 4-5000 total murders by end of project. The scope of the slaughter is deeply horrible; the Qatari lords in charge have claimed their place among the truly evil. Well if true I can say America is truly ignorant of the reports I doubt one in ten or twenty know this stuff. As for the rest of the world...shame they do not demand the cancellation of the world cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Well if true I can say America is truly ignorant of the reports I doubt one in ten or twenty know this stuff. As for the rest of the world...shame they do not demand the cancellation of the world cup Well I know at least one country that did ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Well I know at least one country that did ... Really ok. WHO? I have not heard of one single country call for the cup to be cancelled. I have heard of many rumors to move the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Well if true I can say America is truly ignorant of the reports I doubt one in ten or twenty know this stuff. As for the rest of the world...shame they do not demand the cancellation of the world cup cancellation of the world cup? mike, please try to keep up. several candidate hosts have been listed already in this thread. it would be truly idiotic to cancel a world cup that is three years out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 cancellation of the world cup? mike, please try to keep up. several candidate hosts have been listed already in this thread. it would be truly idiotic to cancel a world cup that is three years out. not idiotic...the very best thing to do...I have listed reasons why. You have listed zero reasons better to continue. IN fact your only reason is too attack as "idiotic" You have addressed zero of my points to cancel that I have discussed in this thread. the fact fans will not even consider doing right.. fans are willing to put up with anything even this massive corruption on a grand scale, and if the reports are true thousands are killed. Your response...don't cancel the cup. As I predicted this will be the response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I am pretty sure this WC will be replaced...and not due to the corruption but the climate, and half empty or empty stadiums we would see in this country with any tradition in soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I am pretty sure this WC will be replaced...and not due to the corruption but the climate, I agree the watercooler has been going downhill, and the climate change thread is ridiculous - but replace it? With what, exactly? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I agree the watercooler has been going downhill, and the climate change thread is ridiculous - but replace it? With what, exactly? oups my english is still so poor as the transparency of the FIFA heh moved to the other place, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I am pretty sure this WC will be replaced...and not due to the corruption but the climate,I agree the watercooler has been going downhill, and the climate change thread is ridiculous - but replace it? With what, exactly?Perhaps you care to address the corruption in the water cooler? ;) Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOut Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Interesting background story in the Post: How a curmudgeonly old reporter exposed the FIFA scandal that toppled Sepp Blatter Foul! earned Jennings a following, including admirers within law enforcement. In 2009, he got a call from an ex-spook who wanted to introduce Jennings to a few people. I go down to London to this anonymous office block, and you go in and there are three men with American accents, Jennings remembers. Theyve got government-style haircuts. They introduce themselves as FBI special agents and give me their business cards, which say organized crime squad.' Bliss, Jennings remembered thinking. The European police forces will do nothing [about FIFA] so it was damn good to see professional investigators get involved. Jennings was eager to help, and after making a few phone calls to sources in the Americas, he sent confidential Confederation of North, Central America and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF) financial reports to the FBI and the IRS. They showed mysterious, multi-million-dollar commissions, Jennings claimed. I said, Right, lets just level the playing field a bit,' he said. And I gave them the documents that really got this going. Jennings trusted the FBI, rather than his fellow reporters, to look at an organization like FIFA and know what crooks they are, he said. For six years, hes used his sources to stay abreast of the investigation. Jennings said he knew that a grand jury had met in the past year to consider bringing charges, but didnt know who would be charged, or when.I guess John Oliver will be drinking a Bud Light Lime. (Yuck...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I guess John Oliver will be drinking a Bud Light Lime. (Yuck...)Yes, but what will he drink if he wants a beer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Yes, but what will he drink if he wants a beer? Budweiser! (not the light or lime) The best beer in the world that goes well with Jameson - Jack - Fireball shots! This ain't wine! The best BEER = the beer that allows you to drink max amount for any budget!See what happens in Europe in soccer games...Bad beer causes frustration and people kill each other. Which won't happen in Budweiser selling NFL games.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Budweiser in one country is a completely different drink than Budweiser in another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Years ago, I was watching a football game with some friends, one of whom was Australian. This commercial for Foster's Lager came on. The last line was some Aussie holding up a can and saying "Fosters! It's Australian for beer!" My friend countered "Nonsense! 'Foster's' is Australian for 'Budweiser'!" B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 There's nothing wrong with Budweiser that couldn't be fixed by selling it before they feed it to the clydesdales... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 The only good Budweiser comes from Budweis (České Budějovice as it is now) the Czech stuff. A friend when he orders Fosters at a local where he's known usually asks for a pint of kangaroo piss. IMO the best beers are either English bitters and other types or continental dark beers, my absolute favourite is http://belgium.beertourism.com/belgian-beers/kasteel-donker which is not for the faint hearted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Perhaps you care to address the corruption in the water cooler? ;) Rik Hey! Feel free to bribe me! (problem: how to send/receive brown money-stuffed envelopes by email) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 lol@this derail, but beer snobbery with regards to budweiser is always amazing to me, and its the clearest indicator that the budtagonist is ignorant of beer. bud unabashedly appeals to the lowest common denominator and tries to cater to the largest, most accessible audience. their beer can't have strong flavors, because strong flavors alienate customers they're hoping to attract. ok, so you're not the lowest common denominator. great! you probably have an idea of what you enjoy in a beer. please just order that instead and keep your preferences to yourself. no one cares if you prefer saisons or porters or lambics or heineken or kingfisher or miller or can i stop now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 i mean lol@me for getting worked up about this and an even bigger lol@terrible analogies, but taking a dump on budweiser is like going to any restaurant in the world that serves good food, whatever your definition of good is, and then telling us that mcdonalds is bad. i mean, ok, mcdonalds isn't even in the same universe as the restaurant you just went to. mcdonalds success has nothing to do with quality. they dont position themselves that way and they don't try to deliver that experience to you. and if i can continue my terrible analogy, fosters is to subway or nandos or whatever ubiquitous chain is regional to you as bud is to mcdonalds. it's a different product but the experience is the same. it's not trying to be good. it's trying to be not bad to everyone. but please, tell us more about how your steakhouse is great and mcdonalds is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 i want my 3000th post to be about alcohol. and i want it to be in a thread about soccer. because that will make my happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 i mean lol@me for getting worked up about this and an even bigger lol@terrible analogies, but taking a dump on budweiser is like going to any restaurant in the world that serves good food, whatever your definition of good is, and then telling us that mcdonalds is bad. i mean, ok, mcdonalds isn't even in the same universe as the restaurant you just went to. mcdonalds success has nothing to do with quality. they dont position themselves that way and they don't try to deliver that experience to you. and if i can continue my terrible analogy, fosters is to subway or nandos or whatever ubiquitous chain is regional to you as bud is to mcdonalds. it's a different product but the experience is the same. it's not trying to be good. it's trying to be not bad to everyone. but please, tell us more about how your steakhouse is great and mcdonalds is terrible. This would be fine if they didn't try to present it as so great, and there weren't large queues of Americans coming to countries with excellent beer who won't try it and just want a Bud. There was also a huge sour taste left when they tried to stop the original Budweiser being sold under its name that it had for 400 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 i want my 3000th post to be about alcohol. and i want it to be in a thread about soccer. because that will make my happy. Happy 3K :) Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 This would be fine if they didn't try to present it as so great, and there weren't large queues of Americans coming to countries with excellent beer who won't try it and just want a Bud. There was also a huge sour taste left when they tried to stop the original Budweiser being sold under its name that it had for 400 years.i'm not sure what to tell you except that these people simply see the world differently than you and i. is it really a surprise that when the lowest common denominator from a country with wacky alcohol laws/culture are presented with possibly unfamiliar alternatives that they stick with what they're familiar and with what they've been conditioned to think is good/patriotic/ooooh look at the clydesdale and the cute dalmation? Happy 3K :) Cheers! !H and thanks for all you do for BBF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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