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What to overcall?


KurtGodel

  

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  1. 1. Red, RHO deals and open 2D AKxxx x J KQJTxx

    • 2S
      8
    • 3C
      22
    • Other (please specify)
      12


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You are not allowed any form of leaping Michaels, the question is not what system are you playing, it's what are you going to bid given your limited options. It's teams.

 

 

The full deal is: [hv=pc=n&s=sak754h5djckqjt53&w=sq2hkjt7432d93ca9&n=sjt86ha9dk872c742&e=s93hq86daqt654c86&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=2d3cppp]399|300[/hv]

I was apparently the only one who didn't get to game, as every other hand either bid 2, or LHO bid 3, allowing you a second bite at the cherry.

 

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So not only am I not allowed to play Leaping Michaels, I'm presumably being forced to play penalty doubles as well?

I don't think that's a valid comment. The hand is not very interesting if you play leaping Michaels, as I presume you would just use it. You are welcome to have takeout doubles. I think 3 is probably just the majors.

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I don't think that's a valid comment. The hand is not very interesting if you play leaping Michaels, as I presume you would just use it. You are welcome to have takeout doubles.

Well, you didn't list it as a poll option even though it seems like a pretty strong candidate to me.

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You are not allowed any form of leaping Michaels.

 

Why not? The main thing I take away from this hand is that a conventional method for showing strong 2-suiters over a preempt is really important! Without leaping Michaels, no bid adequately describes this hand.

 

Regarding the auction you had at the table, I think North has a obvious 3NT bid over the 3C. (Assuming your playing IMPs or Rubber)

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Stuck without leaping I just bid 3C and expect to have another chance. I really do not have so much in hcv and with a weak hand opening I see no real problem as I highly doubt partner is going to pass. If he bids 3N I have 4S available. If they bid H perhaps paarntr can dble to show S, and if not I will bid them myself at what ever level is required.
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Why not? The main thing I take away from this hand is that a conventional method for showing strong 2-suiters over a preempt is really important! Without leaping Michaels, no bid adequately describes this hand.

 

Regarding the auction you had at the table, I think North has a obvious 3NT bid over the 3C. (Assuming your playing IMPs or Rubber)

Yes, if p can bid over 2 with K not working they can bid 3N over 3 where K is a stopper and stopper in all suits.

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Why not? The main thing I take away from this hand is that a conventional method for showing strong 2-suiters over a preempt is really important! Without leaping Michaels, no bid adequately describes this hand.

 

Regarding the auction you had at the table, I think North has a obvious 3NT bid over the 3C. (Assuming your playing IMPs or Rubber)

I am not disputing that, I play the method myself, but I could not on this particular occasion.

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3c

 

This is not without risk since we all too easily can miss 4s. The 3c bid offers a lot of flexibility in return for this risk. We might be able to play in clubs nt or even spades and possibly even make slam bidding easier (especially in clubs). X has some benefit but really isnt as safe or flexible as 3c the odds of 3dx being right are really slim and it may actually make reaching 3n harder than the 3c bid.

 

3c = 8 3s = 7 x = 6

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You are not allowed any form of leaping Michaels, the question is not what system are you playing, it's what are you going to bid given your limited options. It's teams.

 

 

The full deal is: [hv=pc=n&s=sak754h5djckqjt53&w=sq2hkjt7432d93ca9&n=sjt86ha9dk872c742&e=s93hq86daqt654c86&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=2d3cppp]399|300[/hv]

I was apparently the only one who didn't get to game, as every other hand either bid 2, or LHO bid 3, allowing you a second bite at the cherry.

 

 

Bid 2 then rebid 4 Partner will then know you have major/minor 2 suiter. No Trumps is out of the question with such an unbalanced hand....

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so just to be clear

 

3d as a strong cuebid is forbidden

 

3d showing a strong hand is not allowed

I don't recommend using cue bids in a casual partnership. I prefer to

play the K.I.S.S. system (Keep It Simple Stupid)

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WesleyC got this one early on. 3C direct over 2D is certainly a very good hand, and North's pass is very wrong. Theory about cuebids or leaping Mike is nice, but unnecessary this time.

 

Leaping Mike, BTW, with an unknown Major, can get ugly.

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Leaping Mike, BTW, with an unknown Major, can get ugly.

That is true. But if you have the agreement:

4 Always (regardless of whether they have opened/shown or ) other minor + a major

4 Always (regardless of whether they have opened/shown or ) both majors

 

then you can use 4 over 4 to ask for the major.

 

Obviously, it can then get ugly if you (or partner) forgets...

 

Rik

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