lesh Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 The opponents are playing precision. What is your bid? IMPs [hv=pc=n&s=sak76543hd76ckq32&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1d(prec)1h1s(trf%20to%201NT%2C%20no%204%20spades)d2c(5 clubs%20only%2C%20not%20both%20minors)pp]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 4s nonexpert here would have bid 4s last round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 not sure what I bid but don't like my hand. a void in p ♥'s my outside pts KQ♣ is worth 1 trick. May not even be able to get into p hand to cash any of their ♥ tricks. Definitely not bidding 4♠. Doubling and whatever I bid I think will be an overbid. Of course I didn't know the KQ♣ was going to be downgraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=sak76543hd76ckq32&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1d(prec)1h1s(trf%20to%201NT%2C%20no%204%20spades)d2c(5 clubs%20only%2C%20not%20both%20minors)pp]133|200|The opponents are playing precision. What is your bid?[/hv] IMO: Double = 10. 2♠ = 9. 3♠ = 8. 4♠ = 7. 3♣ = 6. Sinking in a quagmire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 The opponents are playing precision. What is your bid? [hv=pc=n&s=sak76543hd76ckq32&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1d(prec)1h1s(trf%20to%201NT%2C%20no%204%20spades)d2c(5 clubs%20only%2C%20not%20both%20minors)pp]133|200[/hv] Lesh, I am not trying to discourage you but it would be very helpful if you mentioned the scoring. In absence of scoring my thoughts about the hand; LHO has clubs and so do I. I will need to park those clubs somewhere. My trumps are self sufficient (kinda) but w/o my pd ruffing those clubs I will lose at least 2 clubs even if pd has Jx or RHO will ruff them. And this is assuming that I do not have a trump loser.I am also void in pd's suit.I have 2 small diamonds.I am expecting a ♦ lead. Normally I would have already bid 4♠ by now, but all of this tells me to cooperate with pd. If it is MP, I am definitely inviting pd which ever is your method of doing this. 3♠ that is for me. I would not argue anyone blasting the game though. One thing that I will never agree and/or understand is 2nd DBL or 2♠ only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyC Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I think bidding 2♠ on the previous round is a much better option because double doesn't describe anything like this hand. Now we've got a pretty ugly choice. 4S could easily have no play, but 2S will almost never get us to game. I'd play double in this sequence as showing a good hand with no clear direction, so starting with double (planning 2S over 2H seems pretty sensible). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alok c Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 3s seems like one of those transfer blame bids we see often on the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Bidding 2S at once certainly appeals to me most, it's F and I hope to play 4S, after all partner has made a vulnerable overcall. Even though the H bid has not enhanced my hand I require very little to produce 10 tricks. Bidding 2S may well silence LHO and we may have the pleasure of seeing partner or an opponent squirm or wiggle a bit. Maybe this players reason for not bidding 2S is they felt partner might think it means H support, so what, you can bid these agin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 This is sort of a partnership thing. What do we expect from a 1H vul overcall AQJXX and out?? If that is the case than I can see trying to be a bit conservative and going with 3s*. If p has shown a bit more we would have to be completely unlucky to have no play for 4s and I would not be shocked to find the combined hands have serious play for slam. xxx Axxxx Axxx J and 6 is a virtual lock and even if the club is small vs the J the opps have to begin with a trump AND be able to play another on the club Q. I do not recommend trying for slam but surely we can stop being so pessimistic. 4s = 9 3s = 7* else 4 slam searches = 3 2s = 2 (better than 7n I guess) This is IMPS and the bonus for vul games is still pretty large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alok c Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 West is showing 11+ hand,East is showing 8+ hand with 4+ spades.It will be difficult even to play in game by south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 please can we stop with these silly posts about how opps have promised 47 points so partner's range is -10 to -7, especially when you don't bother to read the bidding meanings. but yeah 3s 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Two Spades is not enough. Four Spades is too much. Three Spades is just right. - Goldilocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 3♠ should be right now. Game is not assured, and it may very well be that RHO does have real spades. Many partnerships have the agreement that 2♠ on the first round is natural and forcing. If I have that agreement, then 2♠ is the right bid on the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 2S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alok c Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 The opponents are playing precision. What is your bid? IMPs [hv=pc=n&s=sak76543hd76ckq32&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1d(prec)1h1s(trf%20to%201NT%2C%20no%204%20spades)d2c(5 clubs%20only%2C%20not%20both%20minors)pp]133|200[/hv]Can you post the full hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesh Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=sak76543hd62ckq32&w=sjhk765dq87cajt96&n=sq82haq843djt9c54&e=st9hjt92dak543c87]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why not bid ♠ the first time? You have 7 of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why not bid ♠ the first time? You have 7 of them!We did bid spades the first time. That's what double shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 We did bid spades the first time. That's what double shows.I agree, and I think that 2S first time could be "fit". Which we don't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alok c Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 please can we stop with these silly posts about how opps have promised 47 points so partner's range is -10 to -7, especially when you don't bother to read the bidding meanings. but yeah 3sThe silly posts' regarding opponents possible point counts is an indicative factor for bidder to bid a game assuming average ditribution of partner.Nobody should think of himself as sole custodian of great bridge wisdom.Moreover recent joining in bbo forum does'nt mean that he/she started playing bridge from the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 The silly posts' regarding opponents possible point counts is an indicative factor for bidder to bid a game assuming average ditribution of partner.Nobody should think of himself as sole custodian of great bridge wisdom.Moreover recent joining in bbo forum does'nt mean that he/she started playing bridge from the other day. But if you have to start assigning points, you need to finish the job. Partner has made a non space consuming overcall vulnerable. His range is 9-18 on that basis, giving an average of about 12 or 13. Therefore the deck is crooked ... I don't see why you would trust an opponent to have 8 points for his 1♠ bid playing opposite a limited opener - responder can be planning to remove 1NT to show both minors. Anyway, it's all pretty irrelevant. Double then 3♠ gives an excellent description of our hand, suggesting that partner raise with anything anything resembling a hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 The silly posts' regarding opponents possible point counts is an indicative factor for bidder to bid a game assuming average ditribution of partner.Nobody should think of himself as sole custodian of great bridge wisdom.Moreover recent joining in bbo forum does'nt mean that he/she started playing bridge from the other day. Click the highlighted bids to see the explanations. East is not showing spades there, that's why you were told to read before replying. Has nothing to do with who holds the wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Bidding puts parter on singleton or void in clubs. But he can also see it. No need to bid partner's hand just bid 3 spades and he will do what its needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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