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[dboxley]

You must never encounter a slam hand!

 

I don't know why you say that. I don't have to guess whether responder really has a suit for his/her 2/1 which makes it much easier to get to many slams and the balanced hands usually take care of themselves as long as you're not afraid to make mild slam tries below the game level.

[gszes]

1h normal

1s normal

2c normal

3c?? huh 2N seems vastly superior since 5m seems a long way off

pass of 3c????? SAY WHAT--I may not have cared a whit for the 3c bid but passing seems horribly misplaced when it appears that south has nothing in diamonds (our short suit yay) and is probably short in heats and we know of at least a 9 card club fit. II would not get carried away too much but I would at least keep the bidding going with 4c and if p with stiff H and 5th club cannot find 5 sobeit.

 

Now back to reality after a normal 2n (vs 3c)

3c min no game interest contract correction.

4c 10 card trump fit singleton heart dia control suddenly makes 5c appear much closer than it seems. 3n appears to be the wrong strain but a huge cross ruff is indeed possible.

5c heart ace huge in this decision actually feeling better about stiff dia with p unwilling to venture 3n (p dia stop may have been umm err speculative) 9+ card trump fit and cross ruff looks quite possible.

 

Hated pass of 3c the most seems like a total failure to reevaluate. Thank goodness responder did not have the dia A vs KQ or we miss slam with LESS HCP. The 3c bid should have made it easier to get to 5c and a successful bid cannot be assigned blame (even if I don't like it). this means I have to assign 100% of the blame on the pass of 3c.

[karlson]

I don't know why you say that. I don't have to guess whether responder really has a suit for his/her 2/1 which makes it much easier to get to many slams and the balanced hands usually take care of themselves as long as you're not afraid to make mild slam tries below the game level.

 

The point is that after sequences like your 1M-1N-2m-3N, you may have a 4-4 or even 5-4 minor suit fit which is the key to slam, but opener may not be able to move over 3N. Contrast that to 1M-2c-3c or 1M-2c-2d-3d.

 

Your style has some upsides, but my experience is that 1M-2m showing 5+ (I played this style a little bit) is just not all that big of a win.

[mike777]

The point is that after sequences like your 1M-1N-2m-3N, you may have a 4-4 or even 5-4 minor suit fit which is the key to slam, but opener may not be able to move over 3N. Contrast that to 1M-2c-3c or 1M-2c-2d-3d.

 

Your style has some upsides, but my experience is that 1M-2m showing 5+ (I played this style a little bit) is just not all that big of a win.

 

 

Interesting points.

 

I suppose that after 1M=1nt=2m=?

responder needs a way to show slam interest and support by bidding the unbid major or minor. Opener may have bid 2c on a 3 card suit.

 

1h=1nt=2c=(2s or 3d).

1s=1nt=2c=(3h or 3d)

 

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As for the OP agree north could have done more.

 

I wonder what 3d by south after 2c would show? 1h=1s=2c=3d?

 

the same as 1h=1nt=2c=3d?

[dboxley]

The point is that after sequences like your 1M-1N-2m-3N, you may have a 4-4 or even 5-4 minor suit fit which is the key to slam, but opener may not be able to move over 3N. Contrast that to 1M-2c-3c or 1M-2c-2d-3d.

 

Your style has some upsides, but my experience is that 1M-2m showing 5+ (I played this style a little bit) is just not all that big of a win.

 

See Mike777's response, there are lots of ways to work this out. There is no law that says you HAVE to bid 3NT at your second turn but when you do respond 1NT first partner knows you are balanced, no good 5 card suit.