barmar Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Except that in this case the opener did not complete the transfer. Maybe it boils down to "what is a transfer break?" I was using the meaning "a bid of something other than the minimum available bid in the suit to which transferred".Sometimes there are "impossible" calls in a pair's agreements. If a player makes such a call, pretty much the only possibility is that a mistake has been made. Giving a name to this call doesn't really clarify anything. By definition, an impossible call has no agreed meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campboy Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Except that in this case the opener did not complete the transfer. Maybe it boils down to "what is a transfer break?" I was using the meaning "a bid of something other than the minimum available bid in the suit to which transferred".No, I agree with your definition of breaking the transfer. But opener only failed complete the transfer in this instance because he didn't realise it was a transfer. If he had realised, he would have completed it, because that's their agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Sometimes there are "impossible" calls in a pair's agreements. If a player makes such a call, pretty much the only possibility is that a mistake has been made. Giving a name to this call doesn't really clarify anything. By definition, an impossible call has no agreed meaning. No, I agree with your definition of breaking the transfer. But opener only failed complete the transfer in this instance because he didn't realise it was a transfer. If he had realised, he would have completed it, because that's their agreement. When my partner makes an "impossible" call, I try to work out what his intended meaning is. For example, making a Bergen raise and then bidding game shows a hand that was worth game, but not in terms of HCP and also not suitable for a jump to game. The first time I did that, I "made it up" and never dreamt that partner would think that I had forgotten our agreements and thought that the Bergen raise was a strong jump shift or some such. And this would not have occurred to partner either. I think that a player who is "not playing transfer breaks" may find himself with such a super-suitable hand that he feels he must make one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 It seems like no one here, including the director, asked West for the meaning of East's 3♦ bid. HIs answer might prove useful. Looking at West's hand, I'd want to insist on game somewhere, so for me, at least, passing 3♦ is not a LA. It seems to me the LAs are 3♥, 4♥, and 4♣, and that the UI (that partner doesn't know I have hearts suggests either heart bid over 4♣. So I suppose for purposes of score adjustment I have to figure out how the auction might have gone after 4♣ by West instead of 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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