silly question

[babalu1997]

Long ago at main bridge club BBO, I noticed that are some characters who double your contract and, when they notice you are going to make, they keep claiming till you make a mistake and hit the yes button. I consider that a form of harassment. An I thank god for my enemy list. I remember my partner accepting a bogus claim by declarer when i held the setting ace of trumps.

 

Now today, my partner was declarer, and he was doubled. He was going to make it, but the opp claimed down one at a tourney, and he misclicked while playing at a tablet.

 

Teh 'director" said it was his mistake and would make no adjustment. I logged off, and so did the partner. Thing is, this affects the results of others. and it is sad that there is no recourse.

 

My silly question is this:

 

If this was a real life game, and a nervous or distracted partner succumbed to a bogus claim, would he have any recourse.

 

PS. the fact that i missed out on the $0 grand prize does not bother me lol)

[inquiry]

Might belong in law forum, but if there was no way to go down, then the result is changed is my understanding.

[barmar]

From Law 71:

A concession must stand, once made, except that within the Correction Period established under Law 79C the Director shall cancel a concession:

1. if a player conceded a trick his side had, in fact, won; or
   
2. if a player has conceded a trick that could not be lost by any normal* play of the remaining cards.
   

The board is rescored with such trick awarded to his side.

There's no way to lose the ace of trumps, for instance, so you can't concede it. However, "normal" includes careless play -- if you could lose a trick by forgetting to draw trumps, you don't get that back.

[steve2005]

If this were a tournament then If they make a invalid claim you are supposed to call the director and have them settle it. play is supposed to stop. This applies weather it is declarer or defender making the claim.

[mycroft]

Totally offtopic:

 

Oh there are at least two ways to lose the Ace of trumps (or, more correctly, make a grand slam off the Ace of Trumps). ISTR three back when the question was asked, but can't remember the third ATM.

 

Just not without an infraction of the Laws.

 

The two I know of:

 

 

• Revoke, of course: the mandatory 1 or 2 trick penalty brings us back to 13 tricks. (Law 64A)
  
• failure to play to a trump trick - when this is found, a card that can be legally played to it is added to the trick, and the ownership of the trick does not change. (Law 67B1a)
  

If you can come up with the third, I'd appreciate it - it's been bugging me for a while.

 

 

 

My response to invalid claims online is to refuse the claim and immediately make my own. Sometimes I will admit that takes too much time (and they claim again), but there it is as an option. Sometimes, they are totally innocent in their misclaims (even I have forgotten about the ace of trumps in a claim!)

[barmar]

Totally offtopic:

 

Oh there are at least two ways to lose the Ace of trumps

Yes, I realize that. But as you say, they're irrelevant as far as claims are involved, so I ignored them.