gwnn Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn|gwnn,~~M3651fb1,~~M46652yf,~~M1380013|st%7C%7Cmd%7C3S46KH9QKAD59AC349%2CS27TQAH27D6QKC27T%2CS5JH6TJD3TJC56JKA%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%205%7Csv%7Cn%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7Cnotrump%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20%21C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Can%7C2-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-4%20%21H%3B%202-4%20%21S%3B%2010-11%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cmc%7C3%7C]400|300[/hv]If this was the gwnn discussion forum, GIB N would post the same hand with "why did my partner finesse in diamonds when he has a 5-3 fit in clubs?" And all the gibs would be shrugging... But I have a different question, why couldn't I claim all tricks with A AKQ left in my hand? I was quite happy with the claim function and usually I was very careful not to click on "concede all", but this time I was sure my claim would stand so I just clicked without looking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 You can only claim a specific number of tricks when you're on lead. When the robot is leading, the only thing you can do is concede all the remaining tricks. So you should have won the diamond trick, then claimed the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I understood this after a few more almost-disasters eventually, but why this policy? It seems more of a bug than a feature. It was not like there was KJ of diamonds in dummy opposite xx in hand and LHO led low and I claimed 1 trick less, I literally had no way of losing a trick any more (I had lost enough tricks already!). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Totally agree. Easy to say "just win the trick and claim" but also very easy to claim without looking, when you are just going to be cashing out. I have fallen foul of this a couple of times and it leaves you with a rather sour taste I must say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 So, basically there's a penalty against people who don't pay enough attention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I understood this after a few more almost-disasters eventually, but why this policy? It seems more of a bug than a feature. It's not a policy as such, it's just the way Ginsberg wrote the claim code in GIB. I haven't looked at how it works to see why it needs to work differently depending on whether the claimant is on lead or not, but I assume there's a reason for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 How about just disabling claims altogether when they are on lead then? This is the exact opposite of what normally happens in real life. Most of my claims IRL are just after opps led something so this is just wrong. It's nice to say "oh it is just the way it is" but could you also admit that it is a problem that it is the way it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Once i claimed (indicating number of tricks..) but :"claim rejected" so i was forced to play and realized one trick more ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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