Vampyr Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 We must hope, however, that regulators eventually have a sudden rush of sanity to the head -- and drop all system-restrictions. this would just result in all SOs writing whatever system regulations they liked, and anybody entering any event ever (even a lclub duplicate) would have to find out what they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Fantunes and the Monaco team have been playing in NABC+ events for many years. There's really very little excuse for them getting something like this wrong. This mistake seems reminiscent of the NABC last year that used the 10 & 3 schedule instead of the usual 1 & 7;30 schedule, and then some team got confused about the registration deadline for the main team event (it's something like the start time of the second session on the first Sunday, but they assumed it that this means the usual 7:30 time, not that tournament's 3pm start time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Unfortunately, as foreigners, they were unaware that they needed to super-chart their system. No matter how daft the rules, ignorance of them is no excuse so, Fantunes weren't allowed to use that part of their system. LOL. Fantunes has been competing in NABC's since at least the mid 2000's, and probably earlier. Based on posts from Fantunes system fanboys, they also have system variations to use if tournament regulations say they can't open on a singleton or use responses over 1NT to determine the singleton (which is basically only the ACBL, anybody know other jurisdictions?) That doesn't sound like players who are unaware of the regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Based on posts from Fantunes system fanboys, they also have system variations to use if tournament regulations say they can't open on a singleton or use responses over 1NT to determine the singleton (which is basically only the ACBL, anybody know other jurisdictions?)Until fairly recently it was not allowed to open 1NT with a singleton in Germany at all, at least at the levels I play. It is allowed now though (requiring an alert). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Fantunes and the Monaco team have been playing in NABC+ events for many years. There's really very little excuse for them getting something like this wrong. This mistake seems reminiscent of the NABC last year that used the 10 & 3 schedule instead of the usual 1 & 7;30 schedule, and then some team got confused about the registration deadline for the main team event (it's something like the start time of the second session on the first Sunday, but they assumed it that this means the usual 7:30 time, not that tournament's 3pm start time).i dont see the parallel. the case being discussed is clear, to just follow the rules. The registration deadline was confusing and the interpretation of it was changed from one nabc to the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Any comments in light of the 1NT openings with singletons in the Vanderbilt?Also more info: http://bridgewinners...unes-in-action/Fantoni-Nunes employ a more natural system than any other pair in the Vandebilt. Unfortunately, as foreigners, they were unaware that they needed to super-chart their system.LOL. Fantunes has been competing in NABC's since at least the mid 2000's, and probably earlier. Based on posts from Fantunes system fanboys, they also have system variations to use if tournament regulations say they can't open on a singleton or use responses over 1NT to determine the singleton (which is basically only the ACBL, anybody know other jurisdictions?) That doesn't sound like players who are unaware of the regulations. Here is the the BridgeWinners' article Saturday of the NABC swiss we lost our first match and were treated with a draw of the Team Monaco. Fantunes prealerted their system. Danny knew enough about their system to ask what they open with 4441 and a weak nt range. They said that they open 1NT per systemic agreement and assured us that it was legal to play in that event. The director ruled that they could not play it in mid chart events. While this may be allowed in SuperChart methods there was no indication that they registered as a SuperChart team for the Vanderbilt or notified the DIC and opponents in advance per the Vandy conditions of contest: Assuming that Jo Ann Sprung is correct then EITHER Fantunes were economical with the truth OR they they were mistaken about this regulation. We tend to underestimate how hard it is for foreigners to devise the motives and intentions of local regulators :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 underestimate how hard it is for foreigners to devise the motives and intentions of local regulators :([/size]the word you were looking for is "devine". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 the word you were looking for is "devine".Are you sure about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Are you sure about that?Hmm. Maybe not. I do see certain posters from other jurisdictions "devising" motives and intentions. But, I can't imagine them working hard at it. I think it just comes natural to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Are you sure about that? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 the word you were looking for is "devine".McKean's Law:Any correction of the speech or writing of others will contain at least one grammatical, spelling or typographical error. FYI, the correct spelling is "divine". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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