dicklont Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Our club has organised a Patton tournament. This is a great scoring for short team-matches, so it enabled us to play 10 rounds of 4 boards.Preparing for the tournament I found a conversion table on the internet for 4 boards like this: IMP | VP 0- 3 | 4-4 4- 7 | 5-3 8-11 | 6-212-16 | 7-117+ | 8-0 The scoring program of the NBB (Dutch Bridge Association) however uses a different conversion table:IMP | VP 0- 2 | 4-4 3- 6 | 5-3 7-11 | 6-212-17 | 7-118+ | 8-0 It seemed obvious to use the NBB conversion, that's what we have them for don't we? The BAM score was easy: 0-20 | 1-130+ | 2-00-10 | 1-120+ | 2-0But someone suggested to change that to0-10 | 1-120+ | 2-00 | 1-110+ | 2-0 Now I'm wondering if there is a standard for Patton scoring and where can it be found.Or is Patton just a guideline with liberties for the tournament organisation? Corrected BAM scoring Edited March 1, 2015 by dicklont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Strange, the method I'm familiar with is completely different. It considers 10 difference a tie board but not 20, as per the suggestion you got. The other component is scored not by IMPs, but by total points, and for a 4-board round there are only 4 points available. 4-0 is, IIRC, beating the other team by 500+ total points, don't remember the cutoff between 2-2 and 3-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Strange, the method I'm familiar with is completely different. It considers 10 difference a tie board but not 20, as per the suggestion you got. The other component is scored not by IMPs, but by total points, and for a 4-board round there are only 4 points available. 4-0 is, IIRC, beating the other team by 500+ total points, don't remember the cutoff between 2-2 and 3-1.I made a mistake in the BAM table, corrected now. The total points you have played by adds to my confusion. Apparantly Patton has many variations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Google gives the follwoing BBF linkhttp://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/63565-patton-scoring-details-and-software/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Our club has organised a Patton tournament. This is a great scoring for short team-matches, so it enabled us to play 10 rounds of 4 boards.Preparing for the tournament I found a conversion table on the internet for 4 boards like this: IMP | VP 0- 3 | 4-4 4- 7 | 5-3 8-11 | 6-212-16 | 7-117+ | 8-0 The scoring program of the NBB (Dutch Bridge Association) however uses a different conversion table:IMP | VP 0- 2 | 4-4 3- 6 | 5-3 7-11 | 6-212-17 | 7-118+ | 8-0 It seemed obvious to use the NBB conversion, that's what we have them for don't we? The BAM score was easy: 0-20 | 1-130+ | 2-00-10 | 1-120+ | 2-0But someone suggested to change that to0-10 | 1-120+ | 2-00 | 1-110+ | 2-0 Now I'm wondering if there is a standard for Patton scoring and where can it be found.Or is Patton just a guideline with liberties for the tournament organisation? Corrected BAM scoringThe WBF formula would give: IMP | VP 0- 2 | 4-4 3- 7 | 5-3 8-13 | 6-214-22 | 7-123+ | 8-0 I think it used to be quite common in hybrid scoring methods for 10 to count as a draw, though I haven't seen it extended to 20 before, but increasingly this seems to be changed in line with strict BAM scoring where only 0 is a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I never understood forms of BAM where a difference of 10 was considered a tie, if you want to play a form of scoring where margins like 10 are not significant, play IMPs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I never understood forms of BAM where a difference of 10 was considered a tie, if you want to play a form of scoring where margins like 10 are not significant, play IMPs! Well, with hybrid scoring, you are playing IMPs. I think that 10 has usually been counted as a draw because it is already pretty complicated for the player when you have two different objectives on every hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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