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Playing 2 over 1 I open 1NT with 16p and a 5card suit. My P transfer to and then bid 2. As there is a good fit I jump to 4 which he passed and we missed slam. He said 3 would have been a stronger bid but I thought that would be inviting game as he could have only 8points. What is the standard bidding in this case as we hadnt agreed how to bid.
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Playing 2 over 1 I open 1NT with 16p and a 5card suit. My P transfer to and then bid 2. As there is a good fit I jump to 4 which he passed and we missed slam. He said 3 would have been a stronger bid but I thought that would be inviting game as he could have only 8points. What is the standard bidding in this case as we hadnt agreed how to bid.

 

2 is an invite. With a stronger hand your partner should have started with Stayman.

 

S.

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Forgot to say we use puppetstayman if that make any difference

 

If you mean 3 as Puppet Stayman together with 2 as Stayman, it doesn't make a difference. If you mean 2 as Puppet Stayman instead of Stayman, it does make a difference. In the latter case standard bidding will not help you and you need advice from fellow "2 Puppet Stayman" bidders on how to bid with 5-4 in the majors. Frankly, I don't know how they do it. That is one of the reasons I don't play that convention myself.

 

S.

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2 is an invite. With a stronger hand your partner should have started with Stayman.

 

S.

That is a common agreement, but it isn't universal. Many play 1NT-2; 2-2 as invitational (45) and non-forcing, some play it as forcing to game with 55, others play it as invitational (45) or better, forcing for one round.

 

I think it is a generally a good idea in these forums to assume that partner didn't misbid. (Otherwise it is easy to pinpoint the mistake.) In a similar way, it is good to assume that there was no disagreement about basic agreements (another trivial way to lose at bridge).

 

So, let's assume that 2 was

 

A ) forcing for one round, invitational or better

Opener needs to show that he accepts the invitation and that he has an excellent hand. A cuebid of 4m does the trick. This presumably cannot be a cue in support of hearts. If opener would have had an excellent hand for hearts, he would have super accepted the transfer to hearts. Alternatively, one could assign meanings to 3/ as "too good to simply bid 4/".

 

B ) Game forcing

Simply bid 3. It is stronger than 4.

 

Rik

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