snowdragen Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I don't see a way to reliably deal with their 3♥ bid. [hv=pc=n&s=sakj2hk8da853ca84&w=sq97653hjtdq972c5&n=s84hq54dkjt64cj62&e=stha97632dckqt973&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1cdp1d1h2d2sp3c3dpp3h]399|300[/hv] Correct me if I'm wrong, but 3NT appears to lose to a club lead. 4♦ I'm not so sure about, but having to draw trumps 4 times seems to cripple to rest of the hand. In the actual game, South passed, and the contract became 3♥, which made. Is there any hope? Or is this just one of those gimmick hands with whack distribution that's set up to fail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 3nt from the N will make double dummy. But really, not every good game makes. But if S bid 3nt, you may well see hearts attacked not clubs. If you go down, it happens (but it is better than letting them make 3♥). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 if anyone should move it's North - south has already shown their hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 if anyone should move it's North - south has already shown their handSouth hasn't shown their hand at all. Presumably the reason for doubling with a slightly off-shape hand was because it is a balanced hand too strong to be shown by a 1NT overcall, and therefore to be shown by doubling and rebidding 1NT. Had this happened, ie had South rebid 1NT, North would have bid 3NT and now they are at the mercy of the opening lead. Part of the problem is the weird suit-order choice that has been made by East. On the auction as shown, 2D shows no extras but confirms four diamonds. 3D shows a little more, probably in terms of distibution. a 4351 12-count might bid that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 South hasn't shown their hand at all. Presumably the reason for doubling with a slightly off-shape hand was because it is a balanced hand too strong to be shown by a 1NT overcall, and therefore to be shown by doubling and rebidding 1NT. Had this happened, ie had South rebid 1NT, North would have bid 3NT and now they are at the mercy of the opening lead. Part of the problem is the weird suit-order choice that has been made by East. On the auction as shown, 2D shows no extras but confirms four diamonds. 3D shows a little more, probably in terms of distibution. a 4351 12-count might bid that way. S should rebid either 1N or 2♣ if that's a really good diamond raise or 2♥ which is an even better one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I am not sure if I would have raised to 2d with four diamonds and 12 points. But surely this south hand is too strong. In the n/b forum I would be ok with a direct raise to 3d. The more advanced choice is 2c. Such a cuebid shows a strong hand but think about it:A flexible hand with less than four diamonds would have doubled again or bid nt.With five or more spades he could have bid spades.Maybe something like akqxxaxxakqxxwould also bid 2c but realistically it is fair to assume that 2c shows diamond support. 2h would be a natural bid though imho. This is subtle though, especially when opps play short minor suit openings there are situations in which it would be reasonable to play a bid in their minor as natural and a bid in their major as the cue. So therefore I would have sympathy for a 3d bid which is not technically very bad and which doesn't confuse. The 3d bid in your auction is wrong though. Having shown diamonds already the way to show the extra strength is to double 3c. Now north has a maximum for his 1d bid so when south shows a good raise he will bid game. Probably 5d. 3n by North is extremely difficult to bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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