kuhchung Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 casual game (p) 7H (7S) ? x 9 xxxx AKQJT9x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Doubles are always takeout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate_m Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 It's clear to bid 8♣ with such a good suit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Lead directing, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Our second seat 7-level preempts tend to be sound, so I X for penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Partner has 10-12 hearts and ♦A for sure, the problem is if he has spade void or ♠A. The way to ask is to make a forcing pass. Hopefully partner reads our ♣A on his void. Now he can make an informed decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 7NT, LHO is void ♠ and is on lead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masonbarge Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 casual game (p) 7H (7S) ? x 9 xxxx AKQJT9x Double out of respect for partner's pre-empt. His bid was voluntary, but E's was forced and, at least, you should set him. Partner has no way of knowing I hold an Ace if I pass. Maybe with two outside Aces and solid hearts, a double will let him bid 7NT. In that sense, a double might be read to mean "I don't have the Ace of Spades". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 7NT, LHO is void ♠ and is on leadI have no clue if you are joking or not. I expect my partner to have 13 tricks on hand, or perhaps miss ♦Q/♦J, this requires first round control of all the suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 casual game You don't say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted February 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 You don't say. Are you suggesting people don't have their bids? I trusted my partner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Partner is quite certain to have a club void if he can actually count 13 tricks. Culbertson suggested a forcing pass on a somewhat similar hand (Blue Book, 1930), provided you can trust partner to read it, otherwise double--opponent can't have the right cards to make 13 tricks in spades ifpartner has the right cards to take 13 tricks in hearts. Odds are fairly good that a stacked deck and/or sobriety impairment are involved in this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 mike: I wouldn't be worried of partner pasing out, he has ♦A or ♦AK probably not very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Culbertson suggested a forcing pass on a somewhat similar hand (Yes, pass shows one ace. With two aces I would bid 7NT. This deal is why you need to know if you play pass/double inversion or not :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted February 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yeah, partner had A AKJTxxxxx AKQ -- and hearts broke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 partner has the stiff ♦9 and no black cards. Who knows what the 7♠ bidder has :-) [Edit: posted before the reveal] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelfGovern Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Yeah, partner had A AKJTxxxxx AKQ -- and hearts brokeSo 7!C is the better contract. It's a shame P couldn't read the situation and place you in the proper contract rather than 7!H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Still waiting for PhilKing's post analysing all 2nd seat 7-level openings followed by an overcall. Seems we could either agree that forcing pass shows one ace exactly (bid 7N with two, double with none). Or we could allow for a not completely solid trump suit, and require a little trump help (xx or singleton honour) plus an ace for a forcing pass - catering for the bad trump break that's now become likely.I'll put it on my list of things to discuss with pickup partners 10 min before the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 So 7!C is the better contract. It's a shame P couldn't read the situation and place you in the proper contract rather than 7!H.7NT is a good second best contract, RHO helped a bit :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zillahandp Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 We play D0P1 so clear what to do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 the true lesson of this thread: clickbait titles generate views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mbodell Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 the true lesson of this thread: clickbait titles generate views Learn top 4 things from a crazy freak hand thread, you will not believe the 3rd thing is true! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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