Bbradley62 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 [hv=nn=Robot&n=SHQ953DKT75CKT965&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=PPP1H(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B)P2C!(Drury%20--%203+%20%21H%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)P2S(5+%20%21H%3B%204+%20%21S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2018-22%20total%20point)P3C(Cue%20bid%20--%203+%20%21H%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%20%21CA%3B%2012%20total%20points)P4N(Blackwood%20%5BH%5D%20--%205+%20%21H%3B%204+%20%21S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B)P5C(Zero%20or%20three%20key%20cards%20--%203+%20%21H%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%20%21CA%3B%2012%20total%20points)]360|240[/hv]I don't really have a strong opinion as to whether GIB's system should be that 3♣ should show first-round control or first-or-second round control. However, I do have a strong opinion that the explanation provided for the bid should accurately explain GIB's system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 When there are values close to slam or GF+, like here, GIB could make fake-ace-cuebid. It only happens when there is aside void. And this suit where GIB cuebids is never the void, its headed with King+. And the explanation cannot reveal which of these both cases is ( real Ace or K+ and aside void ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 And the explanation cannot reveal which of these both cases is ( real Ace or K+ and aside void ).Why not? Why can't it say CA, or CK plus void? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 When there are values close to slam or GF+, like here, GIB could make fake-ace-cuebid. It only happens when there is aside void. And this suit where GIB cuebids is never the void, its headed with King+. And the explanation cannot reveal which of these both cases is ( real Ace or K+ and aside void ).I don't think is it impossible to know. For instance we have 0 or 3 keys that allows to esclude any case from NT bidder to read for Aces. Secondary, if you apply my method that reveales void ..5 ♦=? Queen, 5 NT= yes (heart) Queen plus an indeterminate void ... ( see RKCB 3014 in "Find my content" in Lovera's profile ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 I don't really have a strong opinion as to whether GIB's system should be that 3♣ should show first-round control or first-or-second round control. However, I do have a strong opinion that the explanation provided for the bid should accurately explain GIB's system. That is a good idea for what you said,a pity that it is also a complicated work,I guess it will be resolved in 64 version at least (now is 32 version) in the future.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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