trevahound Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 This is my first time trying to post a hand and a poll; apologies if I have the wrong forum or poor technique. Club game, matchpoints, strong field for a club game, all experts at the table. You are 2nd chair, all vuln.[hv=pc=n&n=st54hkt98632dtc53&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1d(14%2B%20if%20balanced)p3d(Preemptive)4s5dppdp]133|200[/hv] Your call. How close is it? Thanks in advance. Also, better posting technique is welcome as well. Brian Zaugg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Pass, and not especially. If partner was REALLY looking for slam opposite such (admittedly fitting) garbage of this he wouldn't have bid an immediate 4♠. If you were going to show support the time to do so was over 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 not pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I would have bid over 1♦, I would have bid over 5♦, and I will bid now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Good problem. I would bid 5♥, but it's close between that or 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 [hv=pc=n&n=st54hkt98632dtc53&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1d(14%2B%20if%20balanced)p3d(Preemptive)4s5dppdp]133|200|This is my first time trying to post a hand and a poll; apologies if I have the wrong forum or poor technique. Club game, matchpoints, strong field for a club game, all experts at the table. You are 2nd chair, all vuln. Your call. How close is it? [/hv] IMO 5♠ = 10. Pass = 9. 5♥ = 8. A close decision because it is usually easier to make 3 tricks than 11 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Definitely bid. I think you need to find a call over 1♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 passing is woeful. 5h should be a choice of major considering you didn't bid originally so i'd go for that. i would have bid originally though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 5H look totally normal. It will show a spade tolerance because of the failure to overcall over 1D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevahound Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 This is my first time trying to post a hand and a poll; apologies if I have the wrong forum or poor technique. Club game, matchpoints, strong field for a club game, all experts at the table. You are 2nd chair, all vuln.[hv=pc=n&n=st54hkt98632dtc53&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1d(14%2B%20if%20balanced)p3d(Preemptive)4s5dppdp]133|200[/hv] Your call. How close is it? Thanks in advance. Also, better posting technique is welcome as well. Brian Zaugg Thanks for the replies, all. I was the opener, South's double was preceded by a very long bit and some apparent agony, and then LHO (North) who is a friend and mentor (and a platinum life master) bid 5♥. We were not harmed or damaged in any way, but I wanted to know if passing was an logical alternative with his hand, as not passing was absolutely clearly suggested by the table UI. I would have passed, but these situations are hard at the table, and passing might not be logical at all. Thanks again - Brian Zaugg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Thanks for the replies, all. I was the opener, South's double was preceded by a very long bit and some apparent agony, and then LHO (North) who is a friend and mentor (and a platinum life master) bid 5♥. We were not harmed or damaged in any way, but I wanted to know if passing was an logical alternative with his hand, as not passing was absolutely clearly suggested by the table UI. I would have passed, but these situations are hard at the table, and passing might not be logical at all. Thanks again - Brian ZauggI'm late to the thread, but I don't think that pass is a logical alternative. I don't agree with those who would have bid over 1♦. A vulnerable pre-empt should deliver a slightly better suit than Kxxxxxx and out. A 2♥ call is possible and, if I were forced to bid, would have been my choice, but pass is certainly a reasonable option. It is useful to bear in mind that in these auctions, 4♠ followed by double, slow or fast or in tempo, all say the same thing: he bid 4♠ on power, not as a pre-empt. Look at N's hand in that context: partner voluntarily bid 4♠ to make, and we have this hand. We may not be able to make anything at the 5-level, and I infer from your comment about not being damaged, that bidding didn't work out. Still, bidding has to be the percentage action. And if we are bidding, 5♥ seems unavoidable, altho I imagine partner will be agonizing again after we introduce at the 5-level a suit we couldn't bid at the 1-level :D If he has a stiff heart, he should pull. I think passing here after an in-tempo reopening double is flat out weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't think X here is reopening. 4♠ announces a single suiter. With a flexible hand and power, partner should haved Xed than bid 4♠. 4♠ then X is just a powerful single suiter. Something like ♠AKJxxx ♥Ax ♦KJx ♣Kx maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't think X here is reopening. 4♠ announces a single suiter. With a flexible hand and power, partner should haved Xed than bid 4♠. 4♠ then X is just a powerful single suiter. Something like ♠AKJxxx ♥Ax ♦KJx ♣Kx maybe?I would bet very long odds that he doesn't hold KJx in diamonds. Do you really think that opener would bid 5♦ on a weak 4 card suit? AKQxxx Ax xx KQx is more like it, altho the slow double suggests longer spades...maybe AKJxxxx Ax x KQx On reflection, bidding 5♥ may not be wise....many of the layouts that I see as consistent with the auction play at least as well, and sometimes better, in spades as in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I would bet very long odds that he doesn't hold KJx in diamonds. Do you really think that opener would bid 5♦ on a weak 4 card suit? AKQxxx Ax xx KQx is more like it, altho the slow double suggests longer spades...maybe AKJxxxx Ax x KQx On reflection, bidding 5♥ may not be wise....many of the layouts that I see as consistent with the auction play at least as well, and sometimes better, in spades as in hearts. For me a passed hand bid a new suit at the 5 level got to show a spades tolerance 100% of the times, overcaller will often pick 5M depending on the ace of trumps, he want to avoid a t2 ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeak948 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Im a real user of overbiding intervention. A lot of people dont understand. To bid after 1 D opening it takes generally between 8-16 PH OR 10-17 PHD. Obviously, to protect your sort you must bid. The purpose of that is to avoid ***** 3 nt bid. But in this situation South has no ENTRY in his hand so not necessary to bid. I find thats a perfect sacrifice hand. All depend of your p reaction. 4 S? Its not a sacrifice bid first. I think North has approximatly 12-14 pts but good distribution. One thing is sure opps will make their contract. So South must bid. Down 2 maximum 500 pts VS 600 + Why not 5 S? I dont like 5 H because dummy would be North. If North bid spade, he has minimum 7 spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeak948 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 8-16 PH OR 10-17 PHD intervention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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