hrothgar Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 In an interesting development, the following hand was dealt during the Poland - Bridgewinners match ♠ AK943♥ QJ92♦ T♣ T53 The Poles picked up 13 when they were able to show this hand via 2 suited preempt while the players at the other table chose to open at the one level and ended up in a bad slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 In an interesting development, the following hand was dealt during the Poland - Bridgewinners match ♠ AK943♥ QJ92♦ T♣ T53 The Poles picked up 13 when they were able to show this hand via 2 suited preempt while the players at the other table chose to open at the one level and ended up in a bad slam.Amazing how players who open hands with less than opening values wind up in a bad slam. What does this prove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Amazing how players who open hands with less than opening values wind up in a bad slam. What does this prove?Nothing, IMO. The fact that one team considered this hand a 2-suited preempt (and had the toy available) and the other guy in that seat thought it looked like an opening 1-bid within their agreements is pure serendipity. I have seen a lot worse 13 counts for a 1-spade opening bid than that one. Might be some fault in the auction after the 1S opening, but I don't know the responding hand or the tools they had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Amazing how players who open hands with less than opening values wind up in a bad slam. What does this prove?The point is that these major oriented hands can easily make game opposite a hand that is less than an opening but has a little bit of fit. So, if you don't want to miss game, you will need to do something. If your options are limited to passing or opening, then it is inevitable that every now and then you go overboard if you open. That problem is solved when you have a gadget for these hands. That was already the case for the good old fashioned weak two in a major, but it also holds for major-major hands and Muiderberg hands. Apart from their preemptive function they have a constructive function: to take promising, optimistic hands out of the opening bids. So, if you have a gadget available and open a 9-10 HCP hand with a regular opening bid instead of using your gadget then you forgot one of the reasons why you play these gadgets. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So, if you have a gadget available and open a 9-10 HCP hand with a regular opening bid instead of using your gadget then you forgot one of the reasons why you play these gadgets.Or never knew that reason in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So, if you have a gadget available and open a 9-10 HCP hand with a regular opening bid instead of using your gadget then you forgot one of the reasons why you play these gadgets. RikThis is true. However, we are not told that the player who opened 1S did have such gadget available, here. And, if the pair did have the same toy, perhaps they have a different view/agreement about whether the given hand qualifies as a "preempt". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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