manxx Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Does anyone here really believe that the hands in Robot Bridge are really random? I know for a fact that the finesses are skewed 40% for the players and 60% for the robots, based on analysis of over 2600 finesses/open endings, and that is just the tip of the badly skewed hands iceburg. I want the hands to be 90% equal for all players so skill comes into the play....I never get the top hands.. who can we communicate with to change this stupid approach to Bridge? This only teaches bad habits because in real Tournaments we play similar hands not hands skewed for three robots Also, why when our robot partner is on the lead do they always lead the worst possible card. Watch and you will see this happens....real players would almost never lead what the robot opens with....again teaching bad habits to Bridge players Allan LobeckMANXX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Increasing the font size does not make your comments any less drivel. If their leads are so dreadful that they "always lead the worst possible card" (presumably with disastrous consequences), what makes you think that (human) bridge players would learn bad habits from them? Anything they learn would be a reinforcement of how bad it is to make those leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Increasing the font size does not make your comments any less drivel. If their leads are so dreadful that the "always lead the worst possible card" (presumably with disastrous consequences), what makes you think that (human) bridge players would learn bad habits from them? Anything they learn would be a reinforcement of how bad it is to make those leads. I have long thought that BBO should have a robot or a pair of robots compete in every robot tournament just to show players how the robot's skill compared to the average tournament participant.(Hint, the robots are better) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 When the robot is leading it uses an algorithm similar to the one used in the books "Winning Notrump Lead" and "Winning Suit Leads" by Bird & Anthias, but due to time constraints it only deals a few dozen hands rather than thousands like in the books. Humans tend to use much simpler guidelines, like usually leading 4th best from your strongest suit against NT. There's some more explanation in the GIB System Notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I have long thought that BBO should have a robot or a pair of robots compete in every robot tournament just to show players how the robot's skill compared to the average tournament participant.(Hint, the robots are better)I made precisely this suggestion in this thread http://tinyurl.com/hbkj9y6 It sounds like it is feasible - just requires the will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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