sceptic Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 [hv=d=e&v=n&n=shaq86dj984ckjt94&w=sak52hkj9dkqt73cq&e=st98643h7542dc652&s=sqj7ht3da652ca873]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - - Pass Pass 1♦ 2♣ Pass Pass Dbl Pass 4♠ Pass Pass Pass [hv=d=e&v=n&n=shaq86dj984ckjt94&w=sak52hkj9dkqt73cq&e=st98643h7542dc652&s=sqj7ht3da652ca873]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - 1NT Pass 2♥ Dbl 2♠ Pass Pass 3♦ Pass Pass Pass comments on bidding please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanbari Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 1), east 4s is overbid, 9 loser hand, 0hcp. unless east is looking for magic fit, AK in both majors. however west is in reopening position, he could have less value, and may not garantee 4card spade as well. 2), I would expect west's 3d as 5 card suit.does X of 2h showing heart length, at least 4 cards? most likely, so east can pull to 3h, with west hand, he can bid 2nt as take out at second round, imply heart suit. otherwise pass is normal bid, SHAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 I think East had a warp factor 2 rush of blood to the head on the first board. Second board is a bit more interesting; if the X of H showed H, then W should certainly correct 3D to 3H. Fwiw I think 3D is also a big overbid, (3H also does not make). I would pass 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Hand 1. The "super-scientific" bid is 2NT lebenshol, followed by 3S. Without this gadget, a direct 3S is ok. If there's a game on, pard will bid it. 4S is somewhat optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 board 1:West reopening with dbl, is ok with this hand, but it's minimum since the ♣Q is worthless. and the heart values should be downgraded.It is definitly not game forcing. East however who felt to weak to bid over 2♣ , suddenly thinks they have a full game. Thats impossible! East can stick to the idea of being weak, since a void in partners suit is almost always a reason to downgrade the hand, almost never a reason for an upgrade. So a bid of 2♠ would be ok. I would accept 3♠ as a litte optimistic, but 4 is out of range. board 2:Bet you don't discussed that with your partner! Dbl on an artificial bid should show that suit. So east should switch back to ♥. But if you did not agree on that, there are other possible thoughts, dbl could be take out and you might have a 5card ♦. I've even seen people playing dbl, as showing a penalty dbl on ♠, in that sequence. I won't east for passing with the 3rd K.But why bid 3♦? You have to downgrade ♠J. ♣Kx in front of a NT opening is also worth a downgrade. So you have 3 quick tricks, and if you are luck you can ruff 2 times. You can hardly expect your partner to have more than 5 hcp, so he's worth a trick on average. So you can expect to be two down most of the time. This is not good enough against a partscore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdulmage Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 board 1:a hell of a lot of overbidding, the double says "partner, I have a good hand, bid something other than clubs", knowing full well his partner may have 0 HCP (and he does in this case). The bid is 2♠ board 2: after overbidding 3♦, East should correct to 3♥ knowing full well that his partner has hearts with the artifical Dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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