DavidChinn Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 [hv=pc=n&w=sathkj32dk72cq982&e=sq862ha6dq864caj4&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=p1dp1hp1sp3nppp]266|200[/hv] What is the best line in 3NT?The opening lead is the club 3 (4th best). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Hi, welcome to forums. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gifThis is not a good hand for forums in the form you asked it. For example I will reply "♣8 and cover whatever N plays and play a ♠ to the T. At this point I will be facing 2 not very fun options 1-Wait for you to come back on what happened over ♠ T2- Sit down and spend couple hours to write all the combinations, including the carding of opponents, and write my line of play for every interaction. This will lead to this very good play problem to be not replied or replied less than desirable times imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidChinn Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Hi, welcome to forums. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gifThis is not a good hand for forums in the form you asked it. For example I will reply "♣8 and cover whatever N plays and play a ♠ to the T. At this point I will be facing 2 not very fun options 1-Wait for you to come back on what happened over ♠ T2- Sit down and spend couple hours to write all the combinations, including the carding of opponents, and write my line of play for every interaction. This will lead to this very good play problem to be not replied or replied less than desirable times imho. Thank you for the feedback.I was really looking at the thought process behind a hand that should make 3 NT but only has 4 top tricks.I knew that I had to generate winners in multiple suits, but could not figure out where to start.I will try to ask my focused questions going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Yes we have 4 top tricks. It depends on what they played on ♣ 8. If for example N plays K now we know that we are making 4♣ tricks, if he covers with T or nothing we are probably making only 3 club tricks. And whether ♠ T knocked out K or J is also important. If ♣ K played and ♠T knocked K, then 3 NT is home and we will seek overtricks. But I doubt you would be asking this problem if they did. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif In general we will have to watch a lot of spot cards because it seems they will play a huge role in this 3 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 What's all this about the ♣8 ? North is the opening leader... and apparently has led the ♣3 from 4 cards . West is Declarer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 What's all this about the ♣8 ? North is the opening leader... and apparently has led the ♣3 from 4 cards . West is Declarer. LOL @ me My bad, was thinking E is declarer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidChinn Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 FWIW, I played low from dummy at trick one, losing to South's King.Now with six winners (1 S, 2 H, and 3 C), I needed three more from spades and diamonds.I was looking for a line that made the heart finesse a late play in the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 what was returned at trick 2? i'm guessing another club? In which case i would take the other clubs as S might discard a heart from like Txxx or something and we can get 4 heart tricks :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 266|200|What is the best line in 3NT?The opening lead is the club 3 (4th best).[/hv] FWIW, I played low from dummy at trick one, losing to South's King. Now with six winners (1 S, 2 H, and 3 C), I needed three more from spades and diamonds. I was looking for a line that made the heart finesse a late play in the hand. This contract is fraught with entry problems but I agree broadly with Eagles123: Win ♣ return wiht ♣A. Cash ♣J, paying attention to opponents' signals. Lead a ♦ to ♦K. If ♦K wins, cash ♣Q, chucking a ♠. Duck a ♦. How're we doing? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lackeman Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 I would have played ♣4, then (if i get the ♣) i would finesse ♣J and take ♣A. Then ♦and play ♦7 from hand if S dont go up.Then N can take for ex ♣ K.Then he has problem if shift to ♥ or to ♠ we will have good chanses to find the last trick after revaluate.If N after taking ♣ K shift to ♦ we play low and if ♦ are 33 or Ax or Axxx at N we got 2 ♦tricks.So the situation i that spot will be promising i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidChinn Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thanks all for the input.My line was similar: Win club return, A♣, low spade, losing to N's K, win ♣return to Q, ♠A, ♦Q, ♠Q, ♥A, and ♥finesse.In the end I needed the finesse to be on. I did not know if there was a stronger approach to avoid the finesse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgalt Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I agree with low from dummy on trick one, then win C return with A. At that point I think I would lead a low diamond to the king. For this hand to be better than "two finesses out of three have to work," I somehow have to get North to lead a heart up to my jack. This hand seems to me a bad one to pose as a problem because there's not much I can actually do to affect the outcome, beyond "don't do anything stupid." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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