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I hope noone considers this a 1 overcall?

 

Anyway, your bid now?[/hv]

IMO

  • Over (1) ??: 1 = 10, 3N = 9, Double = 8.
  • Now ??: 3N = 10, 3 = 9, 2 = 6. A possible drawback to 3 is that it makes it harder to reach 3N.

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[hv=sn=nn=mgoetze&n=S2HAK4DAKQT42CK72&d=e&v=n&b=18&a=PP1CD1D!(hearts)1S2C?]133|200[/hv]

I hope noone considers this a 1 overcall?

 

Anyway, your bid now?

 

I think it is very close to a 1 overcall and would do that if partner was not a passed hand. Once partner passes he is a lot less likely to have a hand that is going to bid 4 when I make a takeout double although he could still have one.

 

Having doubled I like 3NT.

 

3 describes my hand but may force partner to raise when we belong in 3NT. He may be able to hedge with 3 but may have a hand that can't do that. I think 3 is forcing since I have shown an old-fashioned strong jump overcall and partner is supposed to have a little somethng for 1.

 

I don't like 2 because it doesn't show a suit that is this good.

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I think that's standard, but is it the best way to play? 2 could also be used to show something like a 3451 hand with extras (around 15 points).

 

I think that 2 is also forcing but shows a different hand than 3. Even if it isn't forcing partner bid only 1 and you are inviting game opposite a maximum or a hand improved by fit.

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I don't understand bidding 3. With which of the following three statements to the 3 bidders disagree?

  1. If I double-and-bid-a-suit, I want partner to raise me with a fit.
  2. If I bid 3 and partner raises, I can no longer play 3NT.
  3. With my actual hand, I probably want to play 3NT.

 

Is partner supposed to figure out that 3 shows stoppers in the opponent suits, and bid 3NT over 3 with a fit?

 

In any case, to me 3 shows a more distributional hand.

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I don't understand bidding 3. With which of the following three statements to the 3 bidders disagree?

  1. If I double-and-bid-a-suit, I want partner to raise me with a fit.
  2. If I bid 3 and partner raises, I can no longer play 3NT.
  3. With my actual hand, I probably want to play 3NT.

 

Is partner supposed to figure out that 3 shows stoppers in the opponent suits, and bid 3NT over 3 with a fit?

 

In any case, to me 3 shows a more distributional hand.

 

This is why I retreated from my 3 and decided to bid 3 NT as fourdad suggested.

 

EDIT: By the way, 2 being forcing or not pretty much depends on what 1 free bid means to you. To me, when doubler implied a suit and I fail to bid it at 1 level, I am either very broke and balanced, or I do not have that suit. i.e QTxxx x xx xxxxx is enough for me to bid 1. I have seen so many times the train has long gone if I fail to bid it now, when pd is likely to be short in clubs.

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i just need more information. Imb, macthpoint, total point, what?

 

and the vulnerable , non vulnerable?

 

I just thing that this hand have less than 50% change to win game.

 

First the 1D promise at least 5 diamons, so is possible j 9 in East. so i cant count 9 tricks in nt. i count only 6,5...

 

Maybe i am ultra wrong now(but from me 3nt here i beter end than 3d)

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i just need more information. Imb, macthpoint, total point, what?

 

and the vulnerable , non vulnerable?

 

I just thing that this hand have less than 50% change to win game.

 

First the 1D promise at least 5 diamons, so is possible j 9 in East. so i cant count 9 tricks in nt. i count only 6,5...

 

Maybe i am ultra wrong now(but from me 3nt here i beter end than 3d)

It's a 28 board team match, IMPs. As always on board 18, NS are vulnerable and EW are not - you can also see this by the fact the E and W have a white background in the bidding diagram, while N and S have a red background.

 

1 showed 4+ hearts (click on bids with a yellow background for explanation).

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i really don't understand why a simple jump to 3nt is not the verdict here by everyone. pd has something in his 1sp bid.... opp will not lead sp here probably.

u have a stopper in cl and the lead will be in cl 99% of time. than u take ur 9 tricks on top. if u can't take ur 9 tricks on top... u write " SORRY PD", and go to the next board.

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I guess partner was ashamed of having bid with only 4 points. I felt he needs to bid 3 anyway. But I can see how 3 made the auction more difficult.

 

Cayne and Garozzo were more on the same page:

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