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My bidding got deservedly critiqued by oppo after this board, but I really had zero idea what to do at the table.

 

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1C was a clubs or balanced style in a 5CM context.

1D was a transfer to hearts.

 

Lacking anything intelligent to do after 2D I just bid 4H and that made (3 imps in), but 6C and 6H both have play but I wasn't sure how to get there.

 

Bids that occured to me

 

  • Start with 3D? I felt like that probably asks for a stopper for 3NT, and I'm not sure I know anything else if partner bids 3NT at this point.
  • 3S is surely a splinter, but I hardly have 4 trumps (though, of course, if I'm bidding 4H anyway...).
  • 3C is clearly NF and my hand is currently GOLD particularly if I can arrange to declare, so that feels bad.
  • 4C.. I'm not sure what 4C is. Something good though, but I'm not sure it suggests I have hearts.

 

Without interference, 2NT would have been 3 hearts 6 clubs and a big hand (or another handtype, but whatever), but with interference it sounds a lot like 17-19 balanced with a diamond stop to me, and while my hand is good, that is not what I have. Also the huge tank up to this point meant bidding 4H was pragmatic, but I'm not sure I should be doing.

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I have this neat convention called the "support double" which applies here.

 

HA. Yeah, good point, though, again, I don't like with the bidding - they rate to have a 9 card spade fit right? I guess doubling and backing in with clubs is the right solution.

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Playing good-bad 2NT, this is a no-brainer 3. Without that 3 might feel an underbid but it's still reasonable (and what I'd bid)

 

I don't think the hand is golden in support of hearts because you might lack entries to setup the clubs. Really, if dummy is forced at trick 1, you'll have a hard time making something out of the club suit.

 

As for support doubles, I refuse to play that convention, as I think it's inferior.

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Agree 3C is an underbid. 4C should be 4-6 in the round suits and you're not strong enough for 3D-then-4H which should show a slam try, nor do you have enough trumps to make a 3S splinter. 2NT should be a balanced hand as you say. So that leaves only X, then raise a heart rebid to 4H else bid 3C.

 

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I don't play transfer responses but I would assume that if I did then, as has been suggested, X should be three card support and I can't think of why I wouldn't do that. In particular, if I were going to bid on in hearts then this seems to be the way to do it.

 

To put it another way, I don't see this as different from 1C-(Pass)-1H natural -(2D) and I don't see why I would not make a support double there. It's true that a common problem with support doubles is that AQx is a lot different from xxx but still I think I start with my three card support.

 

Am I missing something?

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[hv=pc=n&w=shaq9dk73ckq98654&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1cp1d(Hearts)2d]133|200|My bidding got deservedly critiqued by oppo after this board, but I really had zero idea what to do at the table.

1C was a clubs or balanced style in a 5CM context.

1D was a transfer to hearts.

Lacking anything intelligent to do after 2D I just bid 4H and that made (3 imps in), but 6C and 6H both have play but I wasn't sure how to get there.

Bids that occured to me

  • Start with 3D? I felt like that probably asks for a stopper for 3NT, and I'm not sure I know anything else if partner bids 3NT at this point.
  • 3S is surely a splinter, but I hardly have 4 trumps (though, of course, if I'm bidding 4H anyway...).
  • 3C is clearly NF and my hand is currently GOLD particularly if I can arrange to declare, so that feels bad.
  • 4C.. I'm not sure what 4C is. Something good though, but I'm not sure it suggests I have hearts.

Without interference, 2NT would have been 3 hearts 6 clubs and a big hand (or another handtype, but whatever), but with interference it sounds a lot like 17-19 balanced with a diamond stop to me, and while my hand is good, that is not what I have. Also the huge tank up to this point meant bidding 4H was pragmatic, but I'm not sure I should be doing.[/hv]

IMO

  • Double = 10. Providing it's not penalty.
  • 2N = 7. Even if this is ambiguous, both possible meanings are strong, so it should be forcing.
  • 4 = 9, Should imply a fit because it bypasses 3N.
  • 3 = 8. Space-consuming, uninformative, and vulnerable to pre-emption -- but otherwise fine :)
  • 3 = 6. But setting hearts as trumps is premature. If partner has some clubs, then contracts are likely to play better than contracts.
  • 3 = 4. Dangerous underbid

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