GreenMan Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Recently (in last 1-2 years) in Texas, a drunk driver slammed into another car. Killing two kids at the age of 11 and 9 (I may not be % 100 accurate about the ages but was something like that) Father of the kids were in the car as well. Father walked about 2-3 blocks to his home. Took his revolver, came back to the accident scene and killed the guy with 2 shots in the head and walked away. Later he was arrested. This was obviously a murder, arguably premeditated. Jury found the guy NOT GUILTY! And the prosecutors did not even pursue an appeal. Everyone knew that this was a murder. They all just let it go. In my circles we say, not entirely unseriously, that "He needed killin'" is a positive defense in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 In my circles we say, not entirely unseriously, that "He needed killin'" is a positive defense in Texas. Can you explain this please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMan Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Can you explain this please? A "positive defense" or "affirmative defense" is basically a justification or circumstance that precludes legal repercussions -- surely the lawyers here could explain it better. E.g., if you're accused of defamation for something you publish, in the U.S. it's a positive defense to show that what you published was true. (This is not true in all countries of course.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 A "positive defense" or "affirmative defense" is basically a justification or circumstance that precludes legal repercussions -- surely the lawyers here could explain it better. E.g., if you're accused of defamation for something you publish, in the U.S. it's a positive defense to show that what you published was true. (This is not true in all countries of course.) Ok thank you. To me this was a textbook example of "taking the law in your own hands" rather than "positive defense". It was not like the guy was trying to run away from the scene or something like that which would make you believe that he would get away with it. That was not the case, It was a matter of time for the cops to show up and he would be arrested and the system would take its course. Father did not wait. I would not either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I think Greenman's "he needed killin'" is somewhat facetious. There's almost certainly nothing in Texas law that permits vigilanteism like this. It's more of a reflection of their "wild west" heritage and cowboy mentality (hence the "country" pronunciation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Mr Ace, in post #25 said some very weird off-to pic stuff, perhaps implying that the recipient of the insult had done something wrong. Or something. That did not happen, though. Mr Ace did at one point join in Hrothgar's feeling that he would get sexual satisfaction from abusing me, just by the way. LOL I don't even know these people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 This did not happen, though. Can you please show me where I said this? You are putting words in my mouth that I did not say. But I will give you the benefit of doubt and take it as your intention was to quote someone else and made a typo in quoting. Otoh I could not find any reply that says "Weird stuff, perhaps implying that the recipient of the insult had done something wrong?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 You are quoting the wrong person. Sorry, I was paraphrasing. Should have used <>. Fixed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Sorry, I was paraphrasing. Should have used <>. Fixed now. Ok, I still think you are using the quotation function wrong. It still says "MrAce said" at the top of the box, something that I did not say. You should not be using quotation function for your interpretation or summary or main point of what I said. But no big deal, I know you did not intend any harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Ok, I still think you are using the quotation function wrong. It still says "MrAce said" at the top of the box, something that I did not say. You should not be using quotation function for your interpretation or summary or main point of what I said. But no big deal, I know you did not intend any harm. No, I didn't, and I'll fix it again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Mr Ace did at one point join in Hrothgar's feeling that he would get sexual satisfaction from abusing me, just by the way. LOL I don't even know these people! Please show me where I said that. This is when you should be using quotation btw, as well as providing a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 ... Mr Ace did at one point join in Hrothgar's feeling that he would get sexual satisfaction from abusing me, just by the way. LOL I don't even know these people! He didn't say that. I'll PM you and Timo the relevant quotes, links and all and you two take this stuff privately pls. I realize this is a discussion about wank and it may be seen as related, but still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Thanks Diana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Please show me where I said that. This is when you should be using quotation btw, as well as providing a link.OK, I was slightly incorrect. You agreed with another poster that I was the one seeking sexual satisfaction. If you think that makes a difference, whatever. I am so bored with this discussion I could cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 OK, I was slightly incorrect. You agreed with another poster that I was the one seeking sexual satisfaction. If you think that makes a difference, whatever. I am so bored with this discussion I could cry. You know English is not my first language and I thought there was a huge difference between this Mr Ace did at one point join in Hrothgar's feeling that he would get sexual satisfaction from abusing me, just by the way. LOL I don't even know these people! and agreeing to someone who said a lot of things, in one of too many things he said, he told you seek sexual satisfaction. Now I learnt that in English language those are slightly different two things. It is scary though, since official language in USA is English, and the difference between these two in the eye of law are not so slight. One of them can possibly get a "sex offender" sign on my house door, while other one has no such consequences. Thanks for the correction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Now I learnt that in English language those are slightly different two things. It is scary though, since official language in USA is English, and the difference between these two in the eye of law are not so slight. Correct. The difference in a post in a bridge forum is very little, whereas in real life, well, it's actions that count, not words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMan Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I think Greenman's "he needed killin'" is somewhat facetious. There's almost certainly nothing in Texas law that permits vigilanteism like this. It's more of a reflection of their "wild west" heritage and cowboy mentality (hence the "country" pronunciation). Indeed, and I only feel I can take the liberty of playing with the stereotypes because I lived in Texas for 12 years (and liked it there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 This seems like a good time to state the following: I am not aware of any offensive, racist or derogatory meaning of the word, name or, when broken up in smaller pieces, phrase "Trinidad" in any language.I also want to state that I am not a "tiny dad" with poor spelling skills. I am a dad, and not the tallest around, but Trinidad was chosen before my children were born and I am under the impression that my spelling skills are adequate.I apologize to the good people of Trinidad, as well as Tobago, since it is often linked to Trinidad, for somehow being associated with all the drivel that I write on BBF and the poor plays I make, have ever made or will make in the future on BBO. I realize fully that they have no control over my actions. I can only hope that the few times that I do something sensible will shine brightly on these good people. I pledge that I will try to honor the people of Trinidad by using this login name, in the sad knowledge that I will fail some of the time. Best regards, Rik (which I hope doesn't mean anything offensive....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Rik (which I hope doesn't mean anything offensive....)According to the urban dictionary, Rik means rikshaw or party. Probably not very offensive. Acronymfinder cannot suggest anything more prophane than "radio installation kit" so it looks like your parents found an unusually innocent name for you. I would think it would be difficult to make a three-letter-word that is not an acronym of anything dubious. "Helene" is not that bad either. Similar to "Diana" and "Eva", probably most female names means "beautiful" or some such. A "hog" is a penis hanging out of a guy's boxer shorts. Dunno if that offends anyone. "Ace" mean asexual so that is probably super non-offensive. The article about "Vampyr" defines it as "It's a douchebag of a saying made by a douchebag of a blackanese* manwhore.". A blackanese is a black person who wishes he were Asian. I am not sure how to read that but probably it could somehow be offensive to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 "Helene" is not that bad either. Similar to "Diana" and "Eva", probably most female names means "beautiful" or some such."Helene" seems to come from Helen of Greek Mythology. It either refers to the Sun or St. Elmo's Fire, etymologists aren't sure. It could also be related to Selene, which means the Moon. All of these are considered pretty beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Rik also means rich in Swedish (and Norwegian it seems) - I took great offence at Trinidad lording his finincial status over me! :lol: Continuing the Scandinavian theme, hög seems to be high in Swedish and lene is leans or reclines in Norwegian - so obviously all the men should be offended that Helene is treating them as sex objects! :blink: :ph34r: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 This is all very interesting, but do not forget that "wank" is here being used by an English speaker and has no other meaning in English, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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diana_eva Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 BBF INVESTIGATION: [obviously provocative username] CHOSEN INTENTIONALLY! THE WORLD REACTS IN SHOCK AND HORROR! The truth is out! Maybe we shd feature this in BBO News. Looks like a hot headline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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