mgoetze Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=sak87652hjdacaq96&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=3dp4d?]133|200[/hv]What's your plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Double then ♠. Need very little from partner for 6 to have play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 I agree that you need little to make 6♠. Furthermore, it is virtually impossible for you to find out if partner has it. So I would just punt 6♠. Second choice would be 5♠, but, again, it is impossible for partner to know what cards you need to make 6. Double risks playing in 4♦x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I do t like the x and dont really see how it helps if pd bids 4h. Two options, 4s or 6. I guess 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 4 ♠ for me. I can't be joking R/W 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think double then spades is better. I doubt partner will pass our double after this start. I believe 5♦ and then Spades would show a better hand and probably seem like a Majors two-suiter. 6♠ right away seems like the macho-man choice. If I don't trust my partner or don't want anything resembling scientific bidding, I'd choose that. Finally, I'd be afraid of playing just 4♠ if I bid that. It's true, being red vs white it should be a good hand but how often will partner continue (with a hand that would pass the double, for example)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 This is the 21st Century. Double then 4♠ shows a flexible hand, not a slam try. I'd bid 4♠, but if I wanted to take stronger action I'd bid 5♠, which sows a hand that is better than 4♠ and not good enough for 6♠. The problem with any slam try is that partner won't know what we need, but just bidding slam is playing him for a lot of good cards.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Maybe double followed by 5♠ (over 4♥) is the way to go if we aim high - that will get us to 6♠ or 6♣ when it's right. I think it's pretty close between that and a direct 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I like double then 5S, once in awhile partner will be a champ and bid 6C for us. Second choice is to just bid 4S, which is pretty reasonable IMO. I think doubling and then bidding 4S shows a willingness to play hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 4♠. Don't complicate what is simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 4♠. Don't complicate what is simple.And what's so simple about this? As it turned out, partner had ♠Tx ♥AQxxxx ♦xx ♣Kxx and still did not dare to bid the slam even though I bid double-then-4♠. (I agree that double-then-4♠ should actually show a different hand type, but I had the additional information that Partner is still on chapter 1 of "Partnership Bidding at Bridge".) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Maybe double followed by 5♠ (over 4♥) is the way to go if we aim high - that will get us to 6♠ or 6♣ when it's right. I think it's pretty close between that and a direct 4♠. Yes, on reflection, X followed by 5S is far better than a direct 6S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=sak87652hjdacaq96&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=3dp4d?]133|200| What's your plan?[/hv] No idea, so 4♠ = 10, Double = 9. You might try something different with agreed meanings forJump to 5♠ -- Solid ♠ need outside help?Double then 4♠ -- This hand?Double then 5♠ -- Ask for ♦ control? 4N then 5♠ - Two places to play?5♦ then 5♠ - Ask for help in ♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 And what's so simple about this? As it turned out, partner had ♠Tx ♥AQxxxx ♦xx ♣Kxx and still did not dare to bid the slam even though I bid double-then-4♠. (I agree that double-then-4♠ should actually show a different hand type, but I had the additional information that Partner is still on chapter 1 of "Partnership Bidding at Bridge".)FWIW I changed my mind to 4S and think this is not so close after all, we just need a little bit too much IMO to be driving to the 5 level and inviting 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 And what's so simple about this? It's simple because you have an easy bid. The fact you have a slam on and missed it is the reason people preempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 And what's so simple about this? As it turned out, partner had ♠Tx ♥AQxxxx ♦xx ♣Kxx and still did not dare to bid the slam even though I bid double-then-4♠. (I agree that double-then-4♠ should actually show a different hand type, but I had the additional information that Partner is still on chapter 1 of "Partnership Bidding at Bridge".) Looking at the table of contents of "Partnership Bidding at Bridge". Can't find what R/S does when they put the pressure on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Looking at the table of contents of "Partnership Bidding at Bridge". Can't find what R/S does when they put the pressure on us.Chapter 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I can't imagine even thinking of double. Although unlikely partner might pass. I have S and lots of them and now is the time to let partner know about them. If partner has a good hand maybe they will raise, and they will need some nice things for you to make 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Chapter 5.Just scanned chap 5. Mostly 3 level decisions.Didn't see 4/5 level decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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