Laws and ethics

[jimbrown2]

Hands are

 

[hv=pc=w&d=w&w=sakqjt973hk6d8c93&e=shaj732dakt62caq4&a=1sp2hp4sp4n(BIT)p5s(0/2 KC+trump Q)p6s(after agreed pause)p7s(TD called)]400|300[/hv]

 

West Dealer

Spades AKQJT973

Hearts K6

Diamonds 8

Clubs 93

 

East

Spades -

Hearts AJ732

Diamonds AKT62

Clubs AQ4

 

Bidding - opps pass throughout

 

1S:2H

4S:4NT[bIT]

5S*:6S [after agreed pause]

7S - TD called

 

*=RKCB 0/2+Trump Q

W explained that raise to 7 was based on quality of S suit [unknown to partner] and holding HK.

 

Ruling was 6S to West making 13.

Q was this the correct decision

Edited December 16, 2014 by barmar
Add hand diagram

[billw55]

Adjusting to 6♠+1 seems clearly correct. 6♠ says: we are missing a keycard. The pause says: well maybe not. Without the pause, pass is obviously a logical alternative for west.

[lamford]

6♠ says: we are missing a keycard

Why? If partner had x Axxxxx Axx Axx, then partner would settle for Six Spades, surely. Your 4S bid instead of 3S was already a horrible choice, mind you, so I am not sure we are going to be able to find peers of this particular person. The auction is not the same as a hesitation Blackwood situation where a slow sign-off at the 5-level says you are not missing two key-cards. All you know is that partner thinks he can make Six Spades opposite two key cards and the queen of spades. That does not, to me, demonstrably suggest bidding Seven Spades.

[aguahombre]

Why? If partner had x Axxxxx Axx Axx, then partner would settle for Six Spades, surely. Your 4S bid instead of 3S was already a horrible choice, mind you, so I am not sure we are going to be able to find peers of this particular person. The auction is not the same as a hesitation Blackwood situation where a slow sign-off at the 5-level says you are not missing two key-cards. All you know is that partner thinks he can make Six Spades opposite two key cards and the queen of spades. That does not, to me, demonstrably suggest bidding Seven Spades.

I agree with one thing, here. Having failed to show the solid suit via 3S earlier, Opener might consider bidding 7S now. But, IMO, the TD should not buy into it. West still does not know all the key cards are actually held (The failure to ask for kings suggests they are not.), and the B.I.T. could demonstrably suggest that they are.

[barmar]

Did East really make an insufficient 1♥ bid (that's why I didn't include the auction in the diagram).

[jimbrown2]

Apologies 2Hearts

[RMB1]

Did East really make an insufficient 1♥ bid (that's why I didn't include the auction in the diagram).

+1

 

There is not much point in discussing the merits of opener's spade rebid if we do not know to what level responder had bid hearts.

[PhilKing]

To Jim Brown. It's not enough to prove that the bid of 7♠ is a reasonable bid (although I would contend it is not). Partner was scarcely likely to be considering passing Five Spades, so the pause tends to suggest bidding on. Therefore, one needs to be pretty sure pass is not a logical alternative to allow the raise.

 

Since partner's bidding is consistent:

 

♠xx

♥AQxxx

♦AKQJx

♣x

 

Pass is not only logical, but indicated, so it seems clear to disallow the raise to seven.

[jimbrown2]

Decision is well supported, thanks to all. Topic closed.