gambolero Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 If opener can support responder's major with 3 cards when unbalanced what is a good structure for continuing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 If 3-card raises are made only with unbalanced hand you may agree that1m-1M2M-2Nis an asking bid and if opener now bids 3m (or 3♣ when his opening suit was diamonds) we can still stop in 3m (and opener's 3♣ is nonforcing if his opening suit is diamonds), but in all other situations the only partscore we can stop in is 3M. If responder bids something else instead of 2NT, it shows five cards in the major so the major is trump. (Of course if responder bids 3NT directly it is choice of game and opener will usually correct to 4M with 4-card support). If the 3-card raise can be made with balanced hands as well, there is a case for 2NT by responder to be nonforcing but I don't think anybody plays that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 I play two structures in different partnerships, first the "natural" one. After 1♣-1♥-2♥:2♠ = nat f1. All continuations are natural.2NT = GF relay. 3♣ = inv, can be and often is three-card support, since opener will have five when he lacks four hearts3♦ = nat f13♥ = nat inv with five hearts3♠+ = splinter The Marty Bergen structure has 3♦ as NF canape, but I don't think that is realistic. Anyway, I would respond 1♦ in a natural system with a 4-6 10 count or similar. You can also play the relay as non-GF, in which case the responses would need to be altered a bit, with 3♥ showing a minimum weak NT with 4 hearts, but this only caters for responder being 3442 invitational. After 2NT relay:3♣ = nat 6 cards3♦ = 1345 or similar3♥ = max weak NT3♠ = 43153NT = min weak NT, suitable for NTs4♣ = 4225 4♦ = weak splinters4♥ = min weak NT Note that the min spade splinter is missing, which is the nature of the beast when one plays step 2 as the relay. If one is prepared to play 2♠ as the relay, then 2NT in response becomes the 4315 and 3♠ a splinter. In my system heavy partnership, after 1♣-1"heart"-2♥:2♠ = relay GF2NT = NF with exactly 44 in the majorshigher = same as above After 1♣-1"heart"-2♥-2♠:2NT = balanced with 4♥ (then step 1 asks for doubleton)3♣ = 6♣ (step 1 relay agreeing minor or no trumps step 2 relay agreeing major)3♦ = 4315 3♥ = 13453♠ = 3415 or 44143NT = 1435 or 1444 Since I have 3 ways of raising to 2♥ there are sometimes shapes above that cannot exist, but this is the generic order in which they are shown. After a 1♠ response, everything works much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 If opener can support responder's major with 3 cards when unbalanced what is a good structure for continuing? Next step is GI+ relay. Other bids are GI+ with 5crd M and shortness in the bid suit. After the relay:e.g. 1m-1♠-2♠-2nt:3m min with 3♠ & 5m (NF)3om max with 3♠ & 5m3M min with 4♠ (NF)3oM max with 4♠ (but not see below)3nt max 4-3-3-34m max 4♠6m4om/oM max SplinterS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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