guggie Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 I subbed in a competetion team, f2f. Natural bidding. I had [hv=s=st9632ha9dqj8752c]133|100|[/hv]My partner openend with 2NT, after due consideration I bid 3♥, xfer, she bid 4♣, superaccept with club values. I bid 4♥, p 4♠. Well, club values did not improve my hand, and I I was really afraid of a lack of di control, and passed. Partner had [hv=s=st9632ha9dqj8752c]133|100|[/hv]. She said I sh have taken the ♦control for granted. Suggestion for a controlled way to reach 6 diamonds or 6 spades? The board was quite expensive, as at the other table 7♦x was reached, doubled by the player wi♥KQ and ♣A. The ace was led... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 1)I disagree with your pard's choice to open 2NT.Opener did have a quite reasonable 1C opening planning to reverse in spades 2) why should opener blame responder for not assuming opener has controls ?esponder did cuebid after opener's superaccept.Responder's cue did show something, and more or les responder has already made his step forward.After responder's 4H cue, opener's 4S is a signoff offer, unless responder has extras.Here, responder sees wasted club values, so I agree with her pass. On the other hand, it is opener who should have moved forward: he knows responder has something, and he knows all suits are stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Guggie, You are named after S.J. Simon. You know the answers to all of this idiot bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guggie Posted March 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Well, my p had a problem too, she thought 4♥ was a retransfer. If I should have foreseen that problem, would 5♥ have been an idea? Would 4♦ have been a better reply, as it implyed both minor suit controls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Your hand is worth a last try for slam. After 4S, bid 5H. Pard will know you lack diamond control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Hmmm, seems to me opener has more values in ♦ than in ♣. Nevertheless, it depends on your agreements on what 4♥ is (retransfer, control, something else). Imo it's a poor strategy to use retransfer after super accept in such situations. Slams are way more frequent. I also can't see why opener should have a ♦ control, and there's indeed no reason to open this 2NT. It's an obvious 1♣ opener with a perfect reverse possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Get a life guys. Are you seriously suggesting that pd should respond to a 1C opening onxxxxxxxxxxxQx Absolute rubbish! 2NT is ok though I'd be inclined to go via 2C 2D 2N or Kokish or similar. 4H should not be a re transfer - the hand is a bit unlucky for you. Incidentally, 7D is horrible except if you play against nutters who lead the CA.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 They don't call it "Slam-killing 2NT" for nothing! In Polish Club the Spade fit is known at a low level:1♣ - 1♠2♦ Anyway, these kinds of hands are very hard as what you can make depends a lot on the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 File under: "Missed slams due to 2N opening". This time I WILL suggest an auction where my 2♣ aids: 2♣ - 2♥2♠ - 4♣4N - 5♦6♣ - 6♥7♠ 1. 2♣ = 19-21 OR 5 controls + 4-5 losers2. 2♥ = 2 controls + at least another possible cover card3. 4N = Trump ask4. 5♦ = extra length (in this case 5 +) but no honors5. 6♣ = splinter clarification6. 6♥ = void Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarceldB Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 File under: "Missed slams due to 2N opening". This time I WILL suggest an auction where my 2♣ aids: 2♣ - 2♥2♠ - 4♣4N - 5♦6♣ - 6♥7♠ 1. 2♣ = 19-21 OR 5 controls + 4-5 losers2. 2♥ = 2 controls + at least another possible cover card with ♠ xxxxx♥ AQxx♦ xxxx♣ - or simular, same sequence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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