eagles123 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 [hv=pc=n&w=s9432h6d864ckt864&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=p1hp2dp2hp4np5h(2%20no%20q)p6hppp]133|200[/hv] sry thought i was in int/adv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekthen Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 A ♥ seems safe. I think a ♣ is moRe likely to give a trick away than to be the winning option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillPatch Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 A spade lead is less likely to blow up partner's holding there than a trump declarer's play in that suit. It also may work by leading through strength, or finding partner's strength, not possible on a lead into declarer's long suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Club for me, some guy named papi suggests leading from a K against slams and it often produces the result we want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Our diamond holding suggests an attacking lead and auction suggests dummy will have spade control. If it's the ace, you want to lead through it.Spade thus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 When an auction goes bang-crash-wallop into slam without any subtlety, it's either cold or relying on a bit of fortune. A guesstimate is that North has solid(ish) ♦s, good trump support (but possibly missing an honour in ♥s) and something outside in ♣ or ♠. So a ♦ or ♥ lead is passive and will hand the initiative to declarer. A ♠ looks passive too - though it might turn out to be the winning lead (who knows?) - so I will plump for a ♣ and attack. Partner could have the A or Q and a trick outside the♣. Fortune favours the brave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 When opener's shown weakness and nothing else, odds are good that responder has a long suit rather than a tonne of HCP. Leading a ♠ looks like it (approx) gains when the opps have 11 tricks and S the ♠Q or when P has the ♠K over the ace and an outside entry.Leading a ♣ looks like it gains (approx) when they have no ♣ first or second-round control, or when P has the Q♠ and an outside entry. The latter looks more likely to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I always lead aggressively on these auctions when holding xxx in LHO's long suit. Tempo is usually what is critical here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 club, attack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 i guess just most agree that declarer will make if given the time. Partner needs a control and we need another trick. If I lead a club I need partner to have the Q and then something somewhere. Leading anything else seems to require more from partner. It's true that even if partner has the club Q and, say, the ace of spades this might not be enough. Declarer wins, draws trump, runs diamonds tossing clubs, gives up a spade. But a spade lead wouldn't do it then either. So I lead a club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 well I was declarer on this hand, leader, I think even by Hog's standard an expert, did lead a club just wanted to see what others would've lead full hand: [hv=pc=n&s=sqjt6hakt987d732c&w=s9432h6d864ckt864&n=sa75hq52dkqj9caq7&e=sk8hj43dat5cj9532&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=p1hp2dp2hp4np5hp6hppp]399|300[/hv] thanks, Eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekthen Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 So club lead gave the contract! So much for aggression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I regret nothing! I lived as few men dare dream! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillPatch Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Bird/Anthias would recommend a passive lead from an unbid suit here, assuming that the opponents are skilled enough to avoid bidding the slam off a cashing AK. This advice is given in their chapter on what to lead against small slams when responder has shown a useful side suit. Incidentally, if the two side suits have comparable top cards, the shorter is preferable. They would lead a spade here. Right again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 When an auction goes bang-crash-wallop into slam without any subtlety, it's either cold or relying on a bit of fortune. A guesstimate is that North has solid(ish) ♦s, good trump support (but possibly missing an honour in ♥s) and something outside in ♣ or ♠. So a ♦ or ♥ lead is passive and will hand the initiative to declarer. A ♠ looks passive too - though it might turn out to be the winning lead (who knows?) - so I will plump for a ♣ and attack. Partner could have the A or Q and a trick outside the♣. Fortune favours the brave!I agree entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I would lead a club and the actual hand does nothing to change my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgalt Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Sometimes the dragon wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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