phoenix214 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Can anyone suggest any 2NT response structure that is quite natural and does not ask much from memory?(Maybe Baron)Also?Has anyone ever tried transfers to 2NT as GF with 4+ cards(Idea is, that you accept with 3, level 4 response is 4, level 3 other is natural with 2)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Not if you ask a good one... If you're looking for natural, what's wrong with:3♣ = 4+♣ GF3♦ = 4+♦ GF3♥ = 4+♥ GF3♠ = 5+♠ GF3NT = 4=3=3=3 I also wonder why this is posted in Non-Natural System Discussion if you're looking for something natural... :unsure: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Can anyone suggest any 2NT response structure that is quite natural and does not ask much from memory?(Maybe Baron)Also?Has anyone ever tried transfers to 2NT as GF with 4+ cards(Idea is, that you accept with 3, level 4 response is 4, level 3 other is natural with 2)? These (together with pass & 3nt) will get you very far: 3♣ (Puppet) Stayman3♦/♥ JacobyOther responses are far less likely... S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Has anyone ever tried transfers to 2NT as GF with 4+ cards(Idea is, that you accept with 3, level 4 response is 4, level 3 other is natural with 2)?This doesn't seem to allow responder to make a non-GF bid, nor allow opener to play in his 5-3 fit major. I'd be surprised if anyone has tried it, but I think it clearly does come in the "highly unnatural" category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 This doesn't seem to allow responder to make a non-GF bid,Those are highly overrated in a 2NT response structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix214 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Well when i made the thread I assumed then playing puppet+jacoby is the "natural" way. Then if you look at something like 4 card major transfers, it is not that natural anymore, so figure asking if anyone has tried them.Also im asking this because I was figuring to try and make something workable like this(The idea of this, is to make it somewhat mirror T-Walsh 1♣ responses, and make it more the same). Id assume that the idea might be a bit silly, but I am also looking to this as a math problem. Ill try to make some vision of this over the weekend. Would be happy for some review then :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 If using 4 card transfers I would use 2C as hearts and 2D as spades. Now opener could bid the relay with one kind of hand, accept with a second and super-accept with a third. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Phoenix, you have a strange way of using the word "natural". A diamond bid which doesn't show diamonds and is not a suggestion to play a diamond contract is not natural :) Anyway, 3♦ showing 4+ hearts begs the question what you would use 3♣ for. Maybe Heeman could be played after 2NT: 3♣=5+ spades OR GF with a 5-card hearts OR weak with diamonds3♦=Weak with long hearts OR GF with exactly four hearts3♥=GF with exactly four spades But Kungsgetens suggestion is simpler and maybe better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 If you are are thinking about 4-card transfers, I might try two under: 3♣ 4+ H, then 3D=2H 3H=3H 3S=3H max 3NT=4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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