Fluffy Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 So where does it say "expert"? The op said "very strong". That is a far cry from expert. No "very strong" or "expert" player I have ever come across bids this randomly unless he is pissed, after all, 6C could have been opposite xx in C.Gordon, if it was a pro I would want my money back. Bidding like a total fool teaches a client nothing.What money? you are the opponent Ron not the client, you didn't pay him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 What money? you are the opponent Ron not the client, you didn't pay him. Of course I realise I am the opponent. The qun is IF the 6C bidder was a pro and IF you were his pd, would you pay him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 West very weak East very strong. 2n is 20-22 scoring =MP double or no double?is it close?thanks, Eagles Sounds like East is the pro and West is the client. It is possible no other pair is in 6♣. Little or no difference in mps between +100 and +200. If East makes 6♣ one time in ten because of the double, it is a big loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 So where does it say "expert"? The op said "very strong". That is a far cry from expert. No "very strong" or "expert" player I have ever come across bids this randomly unless he is pissed, after all, 6C could have been opposite xx in C.Gordon, if it was a pro I would want my money back. Bidding like a total fool teaches a client nothing.While I agree personally, people have widely varying expectations from a hired pro. Some just want to buy masterpoints, and are quite happy for the pro to hog the hands. Also, we don't even know that this is a pro-client pair. It could be any pairing of a good player and a bad player. It could be spouses who are angry at each other and bidding badly for spite. Who knows? On the actual hand linked by eagles, east is obviously shooting wildly. In fact I think the raise to 7♣ is much more reasonable than the jump to 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 The actual hand is pretty funny. Even funnier with the boost. Nice pass of 6!c. Once again I play my opponent to be semi rational to my demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Once again I play my opponent to be semi rational to my demise. Thats the point. You are way too experienced to hide behind that excuse. The auction in hand may be funny, however you know very well that there are a lot of pairs or players who will bid 6♣ with bad clubs and a void, hoping their pd covers them, because... a-they do not have an agreement on how to handle hands with void and a long minor after 2 NT opening. (don't tell me it is very easy for everyone)b-they may have it but 6♣ bidder did not trust his pd to remember all of that.c-d- the list goes on...and again you are way too experienced to ignore all of this which happens a lot, and then put the blame on them. you re way too experienced and know how big of an information/hint DBL gives to declarer. Because, after all, regardless of who is to blame for your decision, you are the one who will get zero. And since when is it a good strategy for a player in your calibre to shoot for top or zero in a situation where we do not even know if 6 ♣ is their best spot even if it is cold? Of course we should do our best to get a top when the opportunity arises, however I still strongly believe that this is not one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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