manudude03 Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=s86h964d964ckq642&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=p1n(12-14)2c(majors)p]133|200[/hv] MPs scoring, weak field. Nobody vulnerable. 1NT is 12-14, 2C shows at least 4-4 in the majors. 2D by you would ask for longer major (partner will bid hearts with equal length). What's your call here? Would it matter to you if RHO took some time (though never enquired) before passing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akwoo Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Are you in a weak NT field, or has the 12-14 1N opening put you behind already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Pass is really terrible man you only have KQxxx and you have 3 hearts. But bidding 2D is better than bidding 2H imo fwiw, you would much rather play a 5-2 spade fit than a 4-3 heart fit. The downside is perhaps allowing LHO to double diamonds and RHO to compete when we could have bought it in 2H white. If you really have a strong read that RHO has passed with a strong hand you can pass regardless of your club holding. I did this recently and my partner was 6-6 so that wasn't a huge success :P Be careful about that, if you are not sure then just do the normal thing imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 If you really have a strong read that RHO has passed with a strong hand you can pass regardless of your club holding. I did this recently and my partner was 6-6 so that wasn't a huge success :P LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 But bidding 2D is better than bidding 2H imo fwiw, you would much rather play a 5-2 spade fit than a 4-3 heart fit. The downside is perhaps allowing LHO to double diamonds and RHO to compete when we could have bought it in 2H white. But that risks getting to your 4-2 rather than 4-3 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I can't imagine not bidding 2H. The only thing in favor of a possible 5-2 S fit is when partner has crummy H. If thats the case too bad. I don't know what dble means had partner bid that, so facing weak NT 2C should be distributional majors or a good reason to compete, reasonable 4-4-(4-1). I suppose there wil be days when the 2C bidder is AKxxx K10xx Kxx x and bids but these hands carry risky any how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I can't imagine not bidding 2H. The only thing in favor of a possible 5-2 S fit is when partner has crummy H. If thats the case too bad. I don't know what dble means had partner bid that, so facing weak NT 2C should be distributional majors or a good reason to compete, reasonable 4-4-(4-1). I suppose there wil be days when the 2C bidder is AKxxx K10xx Kxx x and bids but these hands carry risky any how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 But that risks getting to your 4-2 rather than 4-3 fit.No because with 4-4 partner bids spades so 2♠ will show 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 But that risks getting to your 4-2 rather than 4-3 fit. OP said specifically that with equal length partner always bids hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 It seems scary to bid anything other than 2h here. It seemsirresponsible to assume p has precisely 54 distribution wheremaybe 2s will play better. With any other distribution heartsshould play better (barring a bad heart split and a friendly spade split). I am hoping the problem was not about passing 2c x (= 0) to playsigh (nuff said) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 It seems scary to bid anything other than 2h here. It seemsirresponsible to assume p has precisely 54 distribution wheremaybe 2s will play better. With any other distribution heartsshould play better (barring a bad heart split and a friendly spade split).2♦ gets us to 2♠ when he's 5=4, and to 2♥ when he has any other shape. What on earth is scary or irresponsible about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Do you job and bid 2 ♥. If it doesn't play well that's partner's issue. Passing 2 ♣ is taking quite a view on the hand. You don't know what partner holds in your suit. It might be at least 2 cards or it might be none. Partner showing the majors tends to show shortness in the minors. You know there's at least a 7 card ♥ fit, so bid for the known fit. It's much easier to explain going down in a 7 card ♥ fit than to explain why you played in a 5-1 or 5-0 ♣ fit rather than an 8+ card ♥ fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted November 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 OK, I confess, I passed, though did suspect it was really wrong to do so. To quickly answer a couple of questions above, the field would be playing weak NT, and double from partner would have been penalty. I don't remember the exact hands, but it was something like this: [hv=pc=n&s=s86h964d964ckq642&w=sq4hqjt7dk72caj83&n=sat73hk852daq83c7&e=skj952ha3djt5ct95]399|300[/hv] Partner managed to scramble 6 tricks in 2C for -100 beating the field in -110/140 in spades the other direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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