raise or pass

[eagles123]

MP opp are best in room

both sides strong and 5

 

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[kuhchung]

i am considering cuebidding

[BillPatch]

I will cue bid 4H. Perhaps I have been listening too much to Kokish about how strong a simple overcall could be.

[Winstonm]

With such limited space and at such a high level already, I think I have to make the most clear-cut and informative bid I can, trying to help partner visualize my holdings instead of me trying to guess his strength. My choice is a simple and direct raise to 5C. The fact that I did not pass, did not try for slam, did not cue bid, but felt compelled to freely raise to game all point toward a minimal but shapely hand, I would think.

 

Nothing is perfect, but trying to describe my hand seems the best route to take.

[PhantomSac]

4H

[manudude03]

Considering AJx Axx x AKxxxx is an excellent slam, I am not passing 4C. I would probably bid 5C without the king of spades, so put me down for a 4H bid too.

[TylerE]

Can I get anyone else to agree that a direct 6♣ has merit? I can't abide playing 5♣ at matchpoints, and if we're going to be in 6 I'd rather do it without mapping the opening lead for the opponents.

[TylerE]

Can I get anyone else to agree that a direct 6♣ has merit? I can't abide playing 5♣ at matchpoints, and if we're going to be in 6 I'd rather do it without mapping the opening lead for the opponents.

[mikeh]

Can I get anyone else to agree that a direct 6♣ has merit? I can't abide playing 5♣ at matchpoints, and if we're going to be in 6 I'd rather do it without mapping the opening lead for the opponents.

how does 4♥ map the opening lead?

 

I think 4♥ is pretty clear...this bad hand has become a lot better now. But I am not sure that if I had only one call available it would be slam. Fortunately, I don't have to commit....4♥ is almost perfect.

[whereagles]

I'm not as optimistic. Just the canonical 5♣ for me. The hand has too many empty spaces. Pard needs to have a real monster to make slam here.

 

I might have bid 6 if pard had reopened 5♣.

[mcphee]

Clear 4H, bidding 6 is pushing and not involing partner. You can't have much more at this stage considering you had the chance to double 3H responsive, you had the right shape but wrong values. 4C has changed things as partner is highly likely to have 6C and 4S making that K10x worthy of major upgrading. My concern is the D suit. Not knowing the style used with overcalls and take out dbles it is hard give a good reply.

[WesleyC]

4H seems very clear.

 

Pass rates well below 6c.

[eagles123]

haha well I bid 5c and thought it kinda obv to bid on, I see I even underbid according to most on here! However my partner wasn't amused when it went -1 :)

[kuhchung]

haha well I bid 5c and thought it kinda obv to bid on, I see I even underbid according to most on here! However my partner wasn't amused when it went -1 :)

 

perhaps you are the one who should not be amused

[mike777]

MP opp are best in room

both sides strong and 5

 

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4h but as your poll design shows this is far from clear for us nonexperts.

[neilkaz]

Can I get anyone else to agree that a direct 6♣ has merit? I can't abide playing 5♣ at matchpoints, and if we're going to be in 6 I'd rather do it without mapping the opening lead for the opponents.

No merit, lets ask PD's opinion with 4♥. I'm torn between 4♥ and 5♣ but like 4♥ somewhat better as our hand has grown up.

[biggerclub]

Is it too late to make a responsive x? 3H is weak, right?

 

Although I did mark 5♣. I am not going to unilaterally bid slam with zero controls.

 

If 5♣ went down, btw, it is not your fault.

[neilkaz]

haha well I bid 5c and thought it kinda obv to bid on, I see I even underbid according to most on here! However my partner wasn't amused when it went -1 :)

What was PD's hand?

[eagles123]

pd had

 

J93

K74

A3

AKQJ6

[MrAce]

pd had J93 K74 A3 AKQJ6

 

We can argue whether this hand should start with 1 NT overcall or start dbl planning to show stronger balanced hand with stopper than 1 NT overcall. But I highly doubt starting double and planning to bid clubs, especially at high level in the auction, would be the choice of decent players. 5332 hand is the last thing to expect from pd for these calls he made at the table to be honest.

 

I have sympathy though, perhaps he thought his hand was too good for 1 NT overcall so he started dbl and then later after unexpected 3♥ he naively thought you would let him play 4♣ when he predicted the club fit+stiff heart in our hand from the auction.

[rmnka447]

I'm bidding 5 ♣. Partner can't know if I have anything in ♣ at all or anything at all. So partner ought to bidding to make or playing maybe for one helping card or so in our hand. Based on the opponent's bidding, they probably don't have more than 9 or 10 ♥. So our hand has what looks to be at least 2 cover cards for partner (♠ K and ruffing value in hearts). The ♦ Q is also potentially useful.

[wank]

Your partner had a toke.

[the hog]

 

 

We can argue whether this hand should start with 1 NT overcall or start dbl planning to show stronger balanced hand with stopper than 1 NT overcall. But I highly doubt starting double and planning to bid clubs, especially at high level in the auction, would be the choice of decent players. 5332 hand is the last thing to expect from pd for these calls he made at the table to be honest.

 

I have sympathy though, perhaps he thought his hand was too good for 1 NT overcall so he started dbl and then later after unexpected 3♥ he naively thought you would let him play 4♣ when he predicted the club fit+stiff heart in our hand from the auction.

 

I agree with this. 4C is the sort of bid you see from weak players on line. The raise, in fact a cue raise for me, is obvious on the responding hand. Responder cannot make a sensible decision if partner bids like this.