roo72 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 It's just a simple choice of your first call. There is no trick to it, no right/wrong answer - I am simply curious what is your preferred bidding style when it comes to overcalls. Red versus green, your right hand opponent opens natural 1♦. You hold:♠AJ82♥A74♦2♣AK1053 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 This is not an overcall, it's a t/o dble. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Obvious Raptor over 1♥--inappropriate over 1♦, with me Raptor implies lack of support for the fourth suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Obvious Raptor over 1♥--inappropriate over 1♦, with me Raptor implies lack of support for the fourth suit. Really?? You are FAR too good for a Polish NT overcall over anything, (sometimes called Raptor). PNT is in the range of 9-14. On this hand I X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Really?? You are FAR too good for a Polish NT overcall over anything, (sometimes called Raptor). PNT is in the range of 9-14. On this hand I X. Really not if for a partnership it shows 9-14, I assumed from the poll that this hand is in range or only slightly out of it for the methods being used, and surely some people must play Polish/Raptor with a stronger range than the 9-14 that you cite as best/most common range, I defer to your expertise about the best range for it--I don't actually play the convention. But if Raptor is possible as a reasonable choice over 1♦, it must be a reasonable choice over a 1♥ opening, where the shape is right. My main point is, that even if a partnership deems Raptor right on values over 1♦, it is wrong on shape. I could have presented this better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Interesting. I'd have bid 2♣ over this, on the grounds that my suit is excellent, doubling risks losing it (I'd X on a lot of hands with eg Qx in clubs, and I don't rate myself strong enough to X and then bid them), and I hope to be able to double later to show pretty much this shape. Am I right in thinking the hands doublers fear are basically those with 8 card fits in the majors mediocre points and no great club fit, where 2♣ gets passed out with game on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 The overcall will work well if partner can scrap up a 2M advance. If he can't, you might end up playing the wrong suit. The take out dbl will work well in just about all scenarios. Hence, dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Interesting. I'd have bid 2♣ over this, on the grounds that my suit is excellent, doubling risks losing it (I'd X on a lot of hands with eg Qx in clubs, and I don't rate myself strong enough to X and then bid them), and I hope to be able to double later to show pretty much this shape. Am I right in thinking the hands doublers fear are basically those with 8 card fits in the majors mediocre points and no great club fit, where 2♣ gets passed out with game on?hard to make game in 5♣ double has better chance for game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Am I right in thinking the hands doublers fear are basically those with 8 card fits in the majors mediocre points and no great club fit, where 2♣ gets passed out with game on?Well those are awful situations indeed but even if someone told me 'hey you will have to play a 2-level contract. There is no game.' I'd double since I have such awesome support for both majors. I feel like ♠+♥>♣ (where each symbol means the likelihood to find a nice contract there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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