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We had a heated discussion last week. You play cuebid as INV+ with 3 card fit, 2NT as INV+ with 4 card fit, support doubles,...; the usual stuff. What do the following bids mean regarding strength and ♥ length:

[hv=d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp1h(Regular%20Walsh)2h(5%2B!s%20and%205%2B!d)d]133|100[/hv]

[hv=d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp1h(Regular%20Walsh)2h(5%2B!s%20and%205%2B!d)3h]133|100[/hv]

[hv=d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp1h(Regular%20Walsh)2sd]133|100[/hv]

[hv=d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp1h(Regular%20Walsh)2s3h]133|100[/hv]

[awm]

We had a heated discussion last week. You play cuebid as INV+ with 3 card fit, 2NT as INV+ with 4 card fit, support doubles,...; the usual stuff. What do the following bids mean regarding strength and ♥ length:

[hv=d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp1h(Regular%20Walsh)2h(5%2B!s%20and%205%2B!d)d]133|100[/hv]

[hv=d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp1h(Regular%20Walsh)2h(5%2B!s%20and%205%2B!d)3h]133|100[/hv]

[hv=d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp1h(Regular%20Walsh)2sd]133|100[/hv]

[hv=d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp1h(Regular%20Walsh)2s3h]133|100[/hv]

 

1. This should be extras/desire to penalize; unusual vs. unusual should take precedence over support doubles.

2. 4♥, fairly min. Many other calls are available as stronger raises here.

3. 3♥, short spades, extras. Not a "simple" support double (they don't go this high).

4. 4♥, enough to accept an invite (a max weak NT is fine).

[Kungsgeten]

1. 3+ hearts, normal raise

2. 4 hearts, some extras (unless 2NT covers this hand)

3. 5+ clubs, 4(+) diamonds, 0-2 spades, 2-3 hearts. Should have some extras too.

4. 4 hearts, extras

 

3 and 4 also depends on what 2NT would mean (Good/Bad seems valid as a candidate)

[aguahombre]

#1 ...AWM's suggestion of U/U and penalty suggestion is our preference.

#3....Would like to reserve the Double to strongly suggest my RHO has made a mistake, especially at the colors given.

[P_Marlowe]

#1 Either Top Honor, or interest in penalty, you need to decide

#2 to play, fit, nothing else, you have 2S and other bids to make some noise

In the end it comes down to the meaning of 2NT, if you play Lebensohl / Good Bad, than the raises show fit and

add. values.

 

#3 If agreed, this could be a suppX situation, showing add. values, we play it as T/O, which is quite similar

#4 to play

In the end it comes down to the meaning of 2NT, if you play Lebensohl / Good Bad, than the raises show fit and

add. values.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[MrAce]

1- Definitely 3 card ♥ for me. It is important to mention your 3 card fit when they show 2 suiter. Not much you can do if their fit is in spades but if E bids 3♦ responder will not now when to bid 3 or 4♥ lacking the information about how many hearts opener has. Opener can punish them by passing 2♥ and then doubling if he wants to. I will not spare an important bid for penalty purposes especially when they get in red/white in front of opener.

 

 

2 and 4 - These are same for me. Opener has either a minimum unbalanced hand with 4 card support, or semi balanced hand with a little extra (14-15 2425 unless you are always opening these 1 NT)

 

3-This may vary depending on your agreements, such as 'good-bad' 2 NT was available or not. I do not have strong opinion on this one.

 

Extra: In #1 (and partly in #2) there is a lot to be said about the cues by opener. (2♠ or 3♦)