kgr Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 MP's[hv=pc=n&s=saj6h75dj64ckt753&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=p2h(weak%202)4c(Leaping%20Mich%20%5B5c%2B5S%5D)4h]133|200[/hv]Weak field; Good partner.You don't have a lot of agreements with this partner, but are sure that 4♣ is Leaping Michaels; 5c♣ + 5c♠.What is your call now? EDIT:- What is DBL in your opinion?- should 4NT be 6c RKC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Assuming pard bids from 5 losers upwards, I'll try 4♠ for the moment. However, if LHO has the tendency to bid his hand twice and/or RHO twitched before bidding 4♥, I'll bid 5♣ then 5♠ over the expected 5♥ push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I am bidding slam for sure. Bid 6♣, they may save, they may not lead ♥ if we are losing 2, or pd maybe controlling the suit. I have way too many values in the rounded suits of pd + 5 card fit. Just let them figure it out what to do. It often works better than scientific approach. Especially when you do not have agreements for this position, because anything you try to do can be misunderstood by pd or may help them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 The problem here is that there is plenty of room for p to havea decent 4c bid and rho bidding 4h to make. It is also difficult forme to imagine us going down more than 2 at the 5 level. With all ofthis in mind I will try 4n Which p should read as key card for spades (since it is at best hugelyspeculative and probably useless for clubs. If I do not like the responseI can try to sign off in 5s but there is some flexibility depending on howthe opps intervene. I also have a problem if p bids 5c (when it means 03).If rho remains silent I believe there is a pretty darn good chance p has 3and will then try a 6c bid (which should not get a 7 level bid from p unlessthey have 3 aces and a void (a good thing btw). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted November 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 - What is DBL in your opinion?- should 4NT be 6c RKC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I think dbl should be penalty oriented, and 4nt should be a slam try but NOT any form of rkc. I will bid 4nt and respect partners decision. I think he will bid 4C on hands like KQxxx x x AQJxxx which do not leave much play for slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think dbl should be penalty oriented, and 4nt should be a slam try but NOT any form of rkc. I will bid 4nt and respect partners decision. I think he will bid 4C on hands like KQxxx x x AQJxxx which do not leave much play for slam. If pd has that hand you won't be let to play game anyway. And 6♣ is probably a good save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=saj6h75dj64ckt753&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=p2h(weak%202)4c(Leaping%20Mich%20%5B5c%2B5S%5D)4h]133|200|MP'sWeak field; Good partner.You don't have a lot of agreements with this partner, but are sure that 4♣ is Leaping Michaels; 5c♣ + 5c♠.What is your call now?- What is DBL in your opinion?- should 4NT be 6c RKC?[/hv] IMO, Persuaded, again, by Mr Ace, 6♣ = 10, 4♠ = 9, 5♣ = 8.No idea what calls mean over RHO's 4♥. Perhaps ... Double = PEN,4♠ = NAT. To play.4N = RKC. with both black kings counting as Aces.5♣ = NAT. To play.5♦ = CUE?5♥ = CUE?5♠ = NAT. NF. Slam-try with with poor ♠?5N = ART. You choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 If I don't have a lot of agreements, I don't try to make them up on the spot. I haven't discussed what 4NT should mean, and if I'm not sure I don't want to have to make partner guess, so I don't bid 4NT. If I'm playing with myself (!) then I bid 6C, since my Leaping Michaels bids show good hands. Other than that, it depends on partner's style. Double should be penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I agree that Double should be penalty. I want to look for slam, but I am concerned that we are off two losers.I might just bid 5♥, with the possibility that we can stop in 5♠ if we are off two Heart losers - partner hopefully won't blow past 6♣ if there is in fact a stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted November 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 MP's[hv=pc=n&n=sKt753hda75caqj42&s=saj6h75dj64ckt753&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=p2h(weak%202)4c(Leaping%20Mich%20%5B5c%2B5S%5D)4h5sp6sppp]233|200[/hv]Weak field; Good partner. I did bid 5S, hoping it would show slam interest without D or H control. My partner raised to 6S.LHO had Sxx and I played him for SQ after he did lead HQ.I did go -1.My partner said that DBL would be my best bid after 4H, but answers here show that that is far from clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Dbl as "I have double fit" definitely is news to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 See, 6♣ makes on ♥ lead even if you can't find ♠ Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 - What is DBL in your opinion?- should 4NT be 6c RKC? Double is penalty.4nt should show slam interest in clubs. 5♥ should show slam interest in spades. 5♠ asks partner to bid 6♠ if he has the hearts controlled. S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 IMO, Persuaded, again, by Mr Ace, 6♣ = 10, 4♠ = 9, 5♣ = 8.No idea what calls mean over RHO's 4♥. Perhaps ... Double = PEN,4♠ = NAT. To play.4N = RKC. with both black kings counting as Aces.5♣ = NAT. To play.5♦ = CUE?5♥ = CUE?5♠ = NAT. NF. Slam-try with with poor ♠?5N = ART. You choose? I think it is better to play 4nt as a slamtry for clubs, 5♦ as natural, 5♥ as a slamtry for spades, 5♠ as a slamtry without heart control and 5nt as pick-a-slam. I agree with the rest. S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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