UdcaDenny Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 With noone vulnerable Im dealer and pass with KQxxx AJxx xx xx, LHO open 1C and my partner bids 1D. RHO passes and I bid 1S which LHO doubles. My partner then bid 2S, RHO passes and as my partner can have 15 points I make a helpsuitbid of 3H. Opener pass and my partner bids 4S as he have King of Heart. Contract goes 2 down and I told him my bid not only asked for help in H but also for extra values since I was a passed hand. We cant agree on this so interesting to have a yes or no to the rise to 4S. His hand was J86 K9 KJ1092 QJ5 a total of 11points which I thought was too weak to go to game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Given you are a passed hand I think 3s by your pard was enough. Perhaps pard should pass 1s or redouble 1s? OTOH if you were an unpassed hand then other issues arise such as what is the range of your 1s. I guess 3s is still down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Quite possibly, you should have passed 2♠. Quite likely, pard should have bid 3♠. You're a passed hand, so what was he thinking of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatrix45 Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Imo, you are blameless. Your partner's hand is an absolute minimum in so many ways. Just bidding 2♠ is marginal to say the least. Jumping to game over your 3♥ trial bid is ........ Unless you are romantically involved, I would advise finding a new partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 I don't think partner could have 15 points, with that he should have bid 2♣ instead of the simple raise. So I would have passed 2♠, which sounds more like an attempt to keep opps out of their hearts fit than as a constructive move. That said, you are of course right that partner should not have accepted you game try. He has rubbish shape, likely wasted values in clubs, rubbish trumps and barely any extras. It's not an issue what your help suit trial asks for, think about what it shows: a maximum passed hand with some stuff in hearts. On the basis of that partner should know that 3♠ is plenty. If you had not been a passed hand it would have been less clear, since he could say that he does have a fitting heart honour and possibly a bit more strength than his overcall showed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Maybe I should not admit this but I am tempted to open the bidding 1♠. With both majors, I might actually do it at matchpoints or especially BAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Partner should bid 3 ♠ over your 3 ♥. Your hand has already passed so is less than an opener. Partner has a terrible 11 bad suit and only 1 QT. The hand is an 8-8 1/2 loser hand. Frankly, I wouldn't even consider overcalling 1 ♦ on that hand. You were OK trying for game as partner could still an overcall that was just below a hand where you double and bid your suit. Partner might well hold something like ♠ Jxxx ♥ Kx ♦ AQJxx ♣ Kx, then 4 ♠ probably will be a make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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