Jinksy Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 X for me, too, for all the reasons above. Also, this isn't just any 2-level overcall - it's the least space-removingy 2-level overcall available, so I want a slightly better suit than I normally would for such a bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted October 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 My thread contained 2 questions: 1. Double or overcall the hand in question. Well answered thanks for that. 2. Is this a good idea? Forget the actual hands what do the sequences mean? 1♠-x-p-2♥2♠-3♥ competitive with 4 hearts 1♠-x-p-2♥2♠-x-p-3mp - 3♥ invite with 4 hearts Wank was the only one to give an opinion and he thought it was bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Sometimes partner has long spades and would like to pass 2♠X if you have only three hearts. So I prefer dbl to deny four hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Dbl. Will pass 2♦... have enough firepower for it. All other replies are a piece of cake. 2♣ seems somewhat more random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 He suggested that on my hand double followed by 3♥was better. Omnibus doubles freak me out, so I would never consider it. Sorry!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanoff Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 My thread contained 2 questions: 1. Double or overcall the hand in question. Well answered thanks for that. 2. Is this a good idea? Forget the actual hands what do the sequences mean? 1♠-x-p-2♥2♠-3♥ competitive with 4 hearts 1♠-x-p-2♥2♠-x-p-3mp - 3♥ invite with 4 hearts Wank was the only one to give an opinion and he thought it was bollocks Well I thought the second double was a game try in hearts. 3m is passing the buck and 3♥ signoff.Maybe Phantom can tell us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well I thought the second double was a game try in hearts. 3m is passing the buck and 3♥ signoff.Maybe Phantom can tell us. Using the second double as specifically a game try in hearts leaves too many hands unbiddable, typically you have a strong hand with 3 hearts to double again (or possibly less with some kind of super strong hand or 2245 with a not great suit that doesn't wanna bid 3m?). e.g. xx AKx AKxx Axxx I think everyone would want to double again showing significant extra values and still trying to compete. Many people would play that the 2nd double never has 4 hearts, you either pass or bid 3 or bid 4H with a fit, I think Wackojack is suggesting maybe X and then bid hearts should show 4 hearts and an invite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Using the second double as specifically a game try in hearts leaves too many hands unbiddable, typically you have a strong hand with 3 hearts to double again (or possibly less with some kind of super strong hand or 2245 with a not great suit that doesn't wanna bid 3m?). e.g. xx AKx AKxx Axxx I think everyone would want to double again showing significant extra values and still trying to compete. Many people would play that the 2nd double never has 4 hearts, you either pass or bid 3 or bid 4H with a fit, I think Wackojack is suggesting maybe X and then bid hearts should show 4 hearts and an invite. This is what I believe too. I do not think there are too many hands which you will want your pd to pass and only pass when we raise him to 3 level vs his simple 2♥ anyway. At 2 level it is competitive raise, at 3 level it is way too much imho to play raise just 4 cards and nothing extra. And second double to me denies 4 card ♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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