zheddh Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 had a disagreement with p on this auction. 1N - (2C) - 2D - (3H) - 3S 1N 15-172C clubs and higher2D transfer3H club support What does 3S mean for you in this auction? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Does not exist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hihihiji Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 I think it should be a cuebid, as the opener is not sure about the strength of his partner, the contract may be stopped at ♥ game or slam. Edit: I was completely ignoring the brackets lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Obviously it is a super accept but I don't think it can ever be right to force to the four level opposite what could be a weak flat hand. Double should maybe show a superaccept here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Obviously it is a super accept but I don't think it can ever be right to force to the four level opposite what could be a weak flat hand. Double should maybe show a superaccept here. X is obv a super accept, if you happen have the hand to force to the four level opposite a transfer (which is like .01 % to happen but possible since it's a freebid eg xx AKxx AQxxx Kx maybe?) you can bid 4H lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 5 card support with a spade control. Maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 you can bid 4H lolYeah, unless opps are joking we can't have slam anyway so why differentiate the superaccepts. OTOH maybe I want a spade lead against 5♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 3♠ means I opened 1NT on something like AKxxKJxxQAxxx But that's because I'm ok with opening 1NT on 4441. By the way, with club singleton the bid is 4♣. Opposite a random I would guess he has AKT9xKxxAQxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 had a disagreement with p on this auction. 1N - (2C) - 2D - (3H) - 3S1N 15-172C clubs and higher2D transfer3H club supportWhat does 3S mean for you in this auction? IMO Good offensive hand with excellent ♥ support, ♠ values, preference for a ♠ lead, and probably off-shape for the 1N opener .e.g.♠ K Q J x ♥ Q x x x x ♦ A x ♣ A x Does not exist DNE or DNU? Manifestly, the call exists, even if you wouldn't use it -- and even if you've agreed not to use it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Does not existSure, but doesn't this just mean it is available for some use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Sure, but doesn't this just mean it is available for some use?No because any call other than pass or dbl would take us beyond the safety level. 7NT isn't available for some use, either :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Legal calls always exist. They may however be inconsistent with previous action and/or reckless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Legal calls always exist. They may however be inconsistent with previous action and/or reckless.Yes, but in fora or even in conversation, I would prefer 3 letters instead of several words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zheddh Posted October 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Thanks for your replies. I had AKQJx Kx Kxx xxx and bid 3S. Since X and 4C would be super accept for hearts, I didn't think 3S can be construed as heart support but that doesn't seem to be the case. Post this bidding, I figured my hand has really improved. My reasons for bidding 3S were to introduce the suit for lead directing purposes if we defend clubs and introduce spades as a possible strain. 4S might make opposite xxx QJxxx QJxx x for example. Will the fora pass with the hand I had or will you open something else in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Thanks for your replies. I had AKQJx Kx Kxx xxx and bid 3S. Since X and 4C would be super accept for hearts, I didn't think 3S can be construed as heart support but that doesn't seem to be the case. Post this bidding, I figured my hand has really improved. My reasons for bidding 3S were to introduce the suit for lead directing purposes if we defend clubs and introduce spades as a possible strain. 4S might make opposite xxx QJxxx QJxx x for example. Will the fora pass with the hand I had or will you open something else in the first place?We are big believers in opening 1NT with a 5cM and 3-3-2 outside when it is in range. But, we also will select 1M instead with a hand so powerful it is worthy of a 2N rebid. So, the OP auction still would not exist for us because other 15-17's with 5 Spades would not want to do it. Yeh, I believe AKQJX KX KXX XXX is too powerful for 1NT...all our points and the 5th Spade are tricks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatrix45 Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Rather complicated and unusual auction. 3♠ should represent a very strong ♥ fit (minimum of four cards), the ♠ ace, and a maximum hand. Opener is committing to 10 tricks whereas partner was only proposing a contract for 8 tricks. Granted, responder might have passed 2♣ with a bad hand, but he/she is not promising very much other than five ♥ and another high card or two. Opener may have three small clubs, relying on the opponents to have nine or ten between them. Oops. Just read your subsequent post. Shame on you for opening 1NT. Double shame on you for compounding your initial error by bidding 3♠. Always remember, bidding is a language. Respect it, and it will reward you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Sure, but doesn't this just mean it is available for some use?You don't have to use all the sequences :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akwoo Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 OP: Your 'opening 1N with a 5 card major' license has been revoked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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