playing 2/1

[sceptic]

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West North East South

 

 -     1♠    Dbl   1NT

 Pass  2♠    Pass  4♠

 Pass  Pass  Pass  

 

Hi,

 

I found myself bidding a game over my pards 2 spade limit bid after bidding 1nt forcing.

 

I am not so much interested in the fact the contract makes or goes down, it is whether I should have bid game with my hand as I did in the above sequence or

 

whether I should have taken my other option of bidding a 2/1 game force as I had evaluated my hand worthy of a 2/1 game force bid. if that is your opinion, can you tell me your prefered sequence i.e 2 clubs or 2 hearts or what ever floats your bost.

[sceptic]

bost = baot (one day my bridge will be as good as my spilling)

[inquiry]

I found myself bidding a game over my pards 2 spade limit bid after bidding 1nt forcing.

 

I am not so much interested in the fact the contract makes or goes down, it is whether I should have bid game with my hand as I did in the above sequence or

 

whether I should have taken my other option of bidding a 2/1 game force as I had evaluated my hand worthy of a 2/1 game force bid.

 Hi,

 

I think you might want to reconsider your competitive bidding structure after a takeout double. I think your choice to leave 1NT as forcing is sort of non-standarded.

 

On 1H - X i would guess standard treatment would be...

 

   --> 1♠ forcing (by an unpassed hand);

   -->1NT = natural

   --> two-level new-suit response is not forcing;

   -->2NT Jordon, game-invitational or stronger raise

   -->jump-shift is preemptive; or maybe fit jump (becoming more popular0

   -->a double jump-shift is a splinter raise;

   -->a redouble shows any other hand-type with 10-plus HCP.

 

It is the fit bids and the redl that allow two of a new suit to be non-forcing. Having said this, I only play this way with pick up partners, i ahve different scheme i am using now.

[hrothgar]

Couple comments here:

 

1. RHO's Takeout double has a major effect on the meaning of susequent auctions. 2/1 Game Forcing applies to uncontested auctions. Your posting suggests that you intreprete your 1NT bid as a forcing NT. This agreement (if it actually exists) is somewhat unusual.

 

2. UGLY double by RHO

[pbleighton]

Not that I disagree with Ben's and Richard's comments, but I will try to answer the question you posed:

 

3S, not 4S, was the right bid IMO. All that shape may not be worth much with two trumps, and no information on fit. The fact that righty doubled is a small negative as well (I agree that it was a horrible double, BTW). Give yourself a third trump, and 4S is arguable.

 

Peter

[sceptic]

I should have said if you ignore the double as it was more the raise to game that I was concerned with , thx for comments

[MickyB]

Your bidding isn't inconsistent - if partner had rebid 2♦, you wouldn't have been so enthralled with your hand.

[sceptic]

ok I agree so what would you bid?

[MickyB]

3♠ is right IMO, but 4♠ could work - swap partner's ♣ and ♥ and a 3♠ bid would miss game. It is just against the odds when your singleton only has two trumps to go with it.

[Free]

I think the Dbl doesn't change that much, except that you won't finesse ♠ and you'll try the intrafinesse in ♥, isn't it great? I'd be in 4♠ as well, with pleasure!

[paulg]

Assuming that there was no double I'd bid 4♠ too. As partner is unlikely to have four diamonds it is likely to have some play and how is partner expected to get it right if I only raise to 3♠.

 

At the same time I'm prepared to look pretty silly opposite some hands :ph34r:

[jdulmage]

bost = baot (one day my bridge will be as good as my spilling)

baot = boat

 

 

1NT forcing is completely fine. You may want to play BART as an optional convention over 1NT forcing bids, but other than that, it's fine.