MrAce Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 This is a hand from a recent BBO tourney that I played.[hv=pc=n&s=sj9643hakj7djcaq4&n=st72hq4dt983ckj83&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=pp1s2d2sp3hp4sppp]266|200[/hv]MP, lead ♥2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Looks like I need to crash some trump honors. Specifically, I need one op to play high from ♠Hxx. West can easily duck Kxx if I lead from hand. So I will try taking trick one in dummy and lead the ♠T, hoping to fool east into covering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Win in hand and play ♠J, LHO might cover from Qxx or similar :) Four rounds of clubs, pitch a diamond before drawing trumps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Are we playing to make (IMPs) or to minimize undertricks (Matchpoints)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Are we playing to make (IMPs) or to minimize undertricks (Matchpoints)? It is MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 In the N&B forums, I trust my opps to show a doubleton, so I cash a club and see if I think they might be 3-3, if I think they are, I play 4 rounds pitching a diamond hoping for HH/Hxx as the trump suit layout but not compromising the number of undertricks. If they're 5-1 I look silly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 In the N&B forums, I trust my opps to show a doubleton, so I cash a club and see if I think they might be 3-3, if I think they are, I play 4 rounds pitching a diamond hoping for HH/Hxx as the trump suit layout but not compromising the number of undertricks. If they're 5-1 I look silly I don't think we should analyse so deep in B/N forums, but if we will then here is my thoughts. -4♠ will not be the common contract for most tables with only 22 hcp, 5-3 awful fit and it is MP (so having lost this board in the bidding part is more likely)-It is not like you will discover a 5-1 break before it is too late anyway (with 1-5 he would lead his stiff or he has reasons not to lead)-With 4-2 or 2-4 clubs, you still need them to ruff 3rd club from HHx/ Hx/xx/x for extra under trick.-You may try to play clubs in specific order to get more honest counts, even from expert opponents, keeping the ♥ Q in dummy as an entry. 2 of ♥ indicates that we are safe to perform such play. Overall, I believe we should try to make the hand even at MP http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 -With 4-2 or 2-4 clubs, you still need them to ruff 3rd club from Hx/xx/x for extra under trick. not true, they ruff the 3rd club from HHx, cross with a diamond and ruff the 4th club with 2 trumps still to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 not true, they ruff the 3rd club from HHx, cross with a diamond and ruff the 4th club with 2 trumps still to come. Ok corrected, if this is all you came up with. Still way too little target to give up on clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hihihiji Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 1. ♥A2. ♣A3. ♣K4. ♣Q (hoping 33 or east with 2 clubs but not ruffing?)5. ♥Q6. ♣J discards diamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Most important lesson for N/B to take away from this hand is to bid 3S over 3H. Assuming that South is worth a move over 2S at MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Most important lesson for N/B to take away from this hand is to bid 3S over 3H. Assuming that South is worth a move over 2S at MP No, the most important lesson is to try to come up with a layout of the opponents cards where you can bring this contract home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 No, the most important lesson is that which will net them the most IMPS or MPS in the longer term when presented with these hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMan Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Playing clubs makes the hand if the defender with short clubs has ♠AKQ tight. Otherwise, if RHO has ♠AK or ♠KQ he might be reluctant to ruff a club with an obvious winner, either the third (if 4-2) or the fourth (if 3-3). So the fourth club might be ruffed by LHO from ♠Hxx, after which the trump honors will crash. This also requires hearts to be 4-3 or, if 5-2, they don't find their ruff. Even if RHO has ♠Hxx and ♣xx we might be able to sneak a club past him by winning the first heart in hand and playing Ace, King and a small club. He might miss his partner's count signal (if any) and decline to ruff. EDIT 1: I see now that hihihiji posted the same line. EDIT 2: Upon reflection, in addition to the sneak-past-RHO line, doesn't running the clubs work anytime they are 3-3 and the trump are HH/Hxx either way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 No, the most important lesson is that which will net them the most IMPS or MPS in the longer term when presented with these hands. Sorry, but they are not going to be presented with this hands in their careers, how can that be important? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 In the N&B forums, I trust my opps to show a doubleton, so I cash a club and see if I think they might be 3-3, if I think they are, I play 4 rounds pitching a diamond hoping for HH/Hxx as the trump suit layout but not compromising the number of undertricks. If they're 5-1 I look silly The nice part about this post is not just thinking of how to make the contract but also reminding thebeginning players that count should generally only be given when the need looks obvious. If declarercan get an accurate count on how suits divide their task is much simpler. Stick primarily to suit preference vs count or at a very minimum learn to randomize carding when count is not obviously needed. I would win the heart in hand and rather than the club ace I would start with the club Q. This would help create the illusion that count might be important. Isn't this game fun???:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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