Jinksy Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 MPs, BBO randoms all round the table. [hv=pc=n&w=st74h74d9863cqj65&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1s2c3s]133|200[/hv] Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 matchpointsnone vulBBO random ops and partner, who presumably I have never metcompetitive auction ---> All condition are ripe for a totally random result. Considering this, I think I will just pass. Partly because ops may have a misunderstanding of 3♠. And partly to avoid stupid comments from partner (3 pt bid beginnerzzzzzz). But not because it is any more likely to be right than anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 All randoms huh? 5♣. There's a 110% chance someone will take the push and a 120% chance they'll bid game if you pass or bid 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 3♣ has the merit of preventing partner from bidding again later and getting us much too high... :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 3♣ has the merit of preventing partner from bidding again later and getting us much too high... :\It sure does since it is an insufficient bid. I would pass. Maybe they can make game but can't figure it out unless I confirm the club fit by bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 3♣ has the merit of preventing partner from bidding again later and getting us much too high... :\Possibly brilliant at the table, but impossible on BBO http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 It sure does since it is an insufficient bid. Sigh. Long day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 All randoms huh? 5♣. There's a 110% chance someone will take the push and a 120% chance they'll bid game if you pass or bid 4♣. All true, but if they're making, there's a 130% chance P will X on the grounds that he's got an ace and you must have a couple of defensive tricks for such strong bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Even though there's a fit, there's just not enough to raise. Pass. By "not enough", I mean either high cards or distribution to provide trick taking power. Partner is very likely to go down at least 2 and probably 3 at a 4 level contract. There's also a good likelihood you'll be doubled at that level resulting in a complete MP zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 All true, but if they're making, there's a 130% chance P will X on the grounds that he's got an ace and you must have a couple of defensive tricks for such strong bidding. a preemptive raise is strong bidding??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 To BBO randoms, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 our hand is so bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 All true, but if they're making, there's a 130% chance P will X on the grounds that he's got an ace and you must have a couple of defensive tricks for such strong bidding. Strong bidding? Lol. 5C is preemptive. Anyway I would pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 All randoms huh? 5♣. There's a 110% chance someone will take the push and a 120% chance they'll bid game if you pass or bid 4♣.You must play with different randoms than I do. I pass this. I expect 5♣X to get murdered and maybe they'll have a missunderstanding about what 3♠ means or fail to bid game anyhow (assuming it makes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 With the conditions -- BBO, randoms all around -- it is all about why you are playing. If your purpose is to engineer/screw around because you will never have to play with these people again, the answer is something other than 4C or Pass. If the aim is to practice exercising judgement in competitive situations -- then observe the outcome -- you will Pass and let the opponents make the wrong decision, or you will bid 4C transferring them to 4S...they will never double 4C, BTW. but you have CHO to worry about. I would try Pass. If a competent partner doubles 4S (or doubles 3S in the passout), I will support the puppies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamJson Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I see no point on bidding on such a poor hand. There are several downsides in going on. It might help oppo identify a good fit if one has xxx or xxxx in clubs and judges, correctly, that their partner is short. It might also encourage partner to lead A from Axxxxx against a spade contract, giving declarer a trick with his Kxx. And of course you might end up making a very expensive sacrifice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 MPs, BBO randoms all round the table. [hv=pc=n&w=st74h74d9863cqj65&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1s2c3s]133|200[/hv] Your call? Raising clubs will only help opponents, not to us most of the time. -I don't wanna play doubled too many clubs with this balanced hand-I don't want them to play something higher either because 2♣ overcall made my hand worth zero defensive tricks, and I know pd's defensive values are reduced with my holding. So why should I do something that will likely create one of these 2 unwanted positions for us most of the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Raising clubs will only help opponents, not to us most of the time. -I don't wanna play doubled too many clubs with this balanced hand-I don't want them to play something higher either because 2♣ overcall made my hand worth zero defensive tricks, and I know pd's defensive values are reduced with my holding. So why should I do something that will likely create one of these 2 unwanted positions for us most of the time? Good points all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 I am actually South? I have no clue how many clubs to bid, so I guess I have to give up on preemption and Pass, at least for now and probably for good. For me, there is a passable case for 4♣, and even a very weak case for 7♣ just so as to push the opponents into their makeable 7♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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