iandayre Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Your hand is AKQJTx, xx, A, AJTx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Sorry I don't understand the options. Who bid 3C? Partner? Did Partner bid 2S and RHO 3C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 It seems clear that if you open 2♣, there is no interference and partner bids 2♦ and then he bids 3♣ over your 2♠ rebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I would open 1♠, but if I did open 2♣, and partner went on to bid 3♣, why would I not raise clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I would open 1♠, but if I did open 2♣, and partner went on to bid 3♣, why would I not raise clubs?Because 3♣ might be defined as an artificial double negative? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Since there are multiple choices for bidding after opening 2♣, maybe there should be multiple choices for "your plan" after opening 1♠. Starting with, what do you do after partner's forcing 1N... Based on the choices provided, I'm guessing that CHO passed 1♠, but we still should have had a plan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Because 3♣ might be defined as an artificial double negative?All the more reason to open 1♠ then... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 BBradley is correct. There is no opponents bidding. And yes 3C is an artificial double negative. BBradley's point about rebids after a 1S opener and 1NT response is valid but 3C seems to stand out to the point where I wouldn't consider it much of a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks to those who voted. 1S, as BB correctly guessed, was passed out. Those who chose option #3, including myself, were greeted with Blackwood. Given the double negative, I suspected what was going on and deducted an Ace, staying in 5S which was down one - all the others reached 6. Only one player - JMunday - chose option 2 and got to play in 4S. The lesson - which GIB veterans like myself should have known - it that it is so often deadly to overbid, or even bid what with a human partner would be normal aggressive bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Certainly, Mr. Munday understands GIB... but, it's also true that his sequence is the one that conforms to GIB's definitions: he showed 23+ total points, whereas you (and I in the poll) showed 25+, according to the provided descriptions. South, in fact, has 22, but I'll take an extra one for the two JT combinations. As a minor comment, it might be nice if the 3♠ bid was explained as 23-24, since the other sequence is 25+. I wonder what a direct 3♠ over 2♦ would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Okay... I got a hand today that allowed me to check all of these... The following sequences:2C-2D-2S2C-2D-3S2C-2D-4SAll show 6+S; 23+. Are there any differences among them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Well certainly there are differences, I doubt if GIB is programmed to be aware of them. 2S is the generic bid with 5+ Spades. 3S sets trump and asks for cue bidding. (Show an ace, bid 3NT with any side kings, raise to 4 with neither) 4S is a hand a trick better than a 4S preempt perhaps AQJTxxxx, AK, xx, x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bbradley62 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Well certainly there are differences, I doubt if GIB is programmed to be aware of them. 2S is the generic bid with 5+ Spades. 3S sets trump and asks for cue bidding. (Show an ace, bid 3NT with any side kings, raise to 4 with neither) 4S is a hand a trick better than a 4S preempt perhaps AQJTxxxx, AK, xx, x.Is this an explanation of what is standard, or of what GIB plays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Definitely the former. Like you I don't know how GIB would interpret the 3♠ or 4♠ jumps. And of course playing "human has best hand" GIB never has a good enough hand to open 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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