How interested are you...

[Jinksy]

I'm pretty sure Jinksy and MrAce both agreed with me, they both upvoted my post and only chimed in once more people said it should be to play. Jinksy was just saying that partner should have the option to prefer playing the 4-3 fit at the 2 level rather than the 5-3 fit at the 3 level, if he doesn't want to accept the game try.

 

Yeah, I didn't think of it as an artificial bid any more than a normal game try is (and, for the record, I thought it was a game try in ♥s). It's just NF, because it's obviously NF no matter what else you reason about it, given that a) P knows you do have the suit and b) you're highly limited.

 

That said, if there's one person in this forum whose opinion I'm going to take as all but settling a bridge issue, it's Justin's.

[gszes]

Partner certainly could have that hand but it is not exactly likely. On the other hand, imagine that hand and the auction up to 2♥ had been given as a forum problem. Would you confidently bid 2♠, certain that partner will pass? Or would you hesitate to do so because there is at least a chance partner could take it as, say, a game try in hearts?

 

I do not feel a partnership is "wrong" to choose to play this change of suits as

some form of game try or better but w/o agreement (and we have done this many times

under many circumstances) if a bid has a reasonable chance to be natural treat it

as such. We constantly strive to improve our contracts and this situation appears

to be no different than the other attempts to improve. I would confidently expect

my p to take 2s as a correction and leave it there. Just as I am sure when they

corrected 1n to 2h they were hoping we would leave it there:)

[gszes]

I have never said this before - I completely agree with gszes.

 

Partner has described his hand almost exactly, so 2♠ should show a hand that, of all things, wants to play in 2♠ (look at his example hand to see why that could make sense). With a a game force you can, er, bid game, and with a heart try you can raise hearts.

 

I hope you don't mind I have had this quote transcribed for my trophy mantle but I left out the part about

never said this before:)))))

[akwoo]

This sequence actually came up in the BBF individual today, and hence I knew to pass, though I'm still convinced that the right agreement is for it to be a game try in hearts with honor concentration in the majors.

 

Partner afterwards said that it meant they had to go to the bathroom.