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East has a pretty clear 2 NT call.

 

West has a made 2 level vulnerable overcall which ought to show some reasonably decent cards. As it turns out, West has a good hand bordering on a hand where you double first. But I think concerns about the type of bidding problem Cyberyeti cites tips the balance toward a simple overcall rather than a double.

 

If West has less, it still should be enough for 2 NT have a decent play. 2 NT seems as good a spot as any to play given East holding unless West has bid on nothing but junk.

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East has a pretty clear 2 NT call.

 

West has a made 2 level vulnerable overcall which ought to show some reasonably decent cards. As it turns out, West has a good hand bordering on a hand where you double first. But I think concerns about the type of bidding problem Cyberyeti cites tips the balance toward a simple overcall rather than a double.

 

If West has less, it still should be enough for 2 NT have a decent play. 2 NT seems as good a spot as any to play given East holding unless West has bid on nothing but junk.

 

"West has a good hand bordering on a hand where you double first."

No he does not! He has a 2C overcall.

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Vul over vul with a trusted partner, I'd prob venture 2N on E's hand (I don't like 2 with a small XX in s, where W's liable to return). On somewhere like BBO, I'd prob just pass and stay fixed.

 

:) still have to bid 2n because sometimes even the most "optimistic" overcallers

actually have the values they need to make their bid and how else will they learn

to quit overbidding?

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